I'm a multiple startup founder.
i've been working on a product for other startup founders so far. was deep in the problem validation.
i get a lot of validation for the idea i have in mind. however all arrows point out that it is not a product for early stage startups but a really good product for established companies. startups with financing or enterprises.
so far, so good.
i'm now faced with the problem of whether i can continue to work on my actual idea, but for a different target group. Or whether I'm looking for a new problem in the target group I like very much.
the 2 opinions in my mind:
i started with the motivation to do something for other founders. that's what drives me around. that's where i can produce a lot of content and where i identify myself. i don't like enterprises at all. you have to pretend and you can't be yourself and you have to do with a lot of overhead. i can't imagine selling to enterprises for the next years. i'm good at startups. and working with founders. that's what the past has shown.
on the other hand, i have some doubts about the early stage startup target group. i'm also not sure how much money early stage startups are willing to spend on software as a service. most of it is education (books, etc.). and if it doesn't make more sense to pursue the idea for which i get a lot of validation from another target group.
What would you do?
This is a tough one.
Firstly, congrats on being so self-aware. Based on that (and your focus on the problem over the solution) you're easily in the top 2% of IHers most likely to build a successful business .
Early stage startups/founders are terrible customers. Truly terrible. They need a lot of customer service and handholding, but can't afford to pay much and churn quickly.
Yet when it comes to enterprise/established companies, you seem pretty certain that you don't have the enthusiasm/passion necessary to build the business and make sales.
If you think that now, then you're almost 100% guaranteed to be correct.
I'd also be very wary of iterating around the product instead of the problem. If the square peg doesn't fit in the round hole, go build a different peg, don't wander off hoping to find a square hole.
My advice for your situation would be to spend more time with founders/early stage startups and see what problems they are willing to spend money on solving. Don't get tricked by the sunk cost fallacy.
Another approach would be to talk to high-growth startups/small businesses and see if they have the problem you're passionate about solving and have been working on already. Sales to them will be much closer to 'startup sales' than enterprise sales, so you just might enjoy it.
Good luck!
I don't know what industry you're in, so you might be totally right here. But I've seen a lot of situations where enterprise sales is downright pleasant. In fact, I'd say the businesses with the most pleasant relationships between the owners and the customers are typically B2B doing sales to a relatively small number of big customers.
I like to use myself as an example here. Doing ad sales for the IH podcast early on was great when I was talking to people at big companies and awful when I was dealing with small startup founders.
The people at big companies worked in departments whose entire purpose was to spend money on ads. Sales were easy and streamlined. They just wanted to get on the phone and talk about their kids and vacations. They often renewed and rarely checked in. Whereas startup founders were tough to sell to, super cheap, and checked in constantly to see if they were getting their money's worth.
Thanks for making me hope. Maybe I was just frustrated yesterday.
If you don't like enterprises at all and want to focus on early startups, you should consider not only the business perspective, but your personal well-being. Would you commit yourself to working on something you don't like? Based on your own answer to that question, then you can act on the other.
You have now an idea that may work, but that wouldn't satisfy you. You can find a way of building a solution keeping in mind a quick exit from your side. For instance, you could transfer the business to someone else and you keep a role of advisor, etc.
Your sentence:
And this sentence:
Makes me wonder exactly what your insights on startups are. If you already validated the fact that startups don't spend on SaaS, then you should do something that is not SaaS, perhaps write a book. It wouldn't matter if you try hard to find a problem, you know people won't pay for a SaaS solution to it.
However, I do not agree 100% with your statement. Rational founders pay or not for SaaS services based on the value they deliver. If you have a service that will make me 20% more productive, I can act based on that. New services more often than not fail at proving their own value. Startup SaaS for other startups working on SaaS models start piling up in a circle. Someone needs to generate revenue out of it in order to sustain all the others.
good point, thank you. maybe I was just frustrated. :)
Can you share some more details on why it is not a product for early stage startups?
You might be able to go for the hybrid model, where enterprise customer generate most of the revenues, that allow you to serve the founders. (if this can work).
Also you might want to revisit your view on enterprises, it seems like you had some bad experience there that biases your view. In the end you are selling to people and people in the enterprise need/want help just as much, it is probably only more procedural/long in the sales cycle.
Sure! Thanks for your reply!
it's not a product for early stage startups because the founders all go through the bank making decisions through inspiration and gut feeling.
but i wanted to build something that helps to test data-driven hypotheses. something that companies generally only do when they are big enough to do a/b testing.
so there's absolutely no problem awareness at early stage foundern. as good as any founder says that it would be great, but not for him. because he's better than others. because he doesn't have time for such "overhead".
That makes sense, one combination that could maybe make this interesting is to offer your tool/service to bigger companies and work with founders to share the information. Although they might not have the data to run a/b tests, they are probably interested in saving time in figuring out what works.
There is a big range between enterprises and single founders though, I'm sure there is a niche of customers that you like, when this is a problem you are passionate about, I would try to find that niche to establish your business, then share your knowledge with early founders.
The only advice i can give to you is to take your time and research your unknowns and try to make an objective decision at the point where you feel comfortable with your decision. No one knows your situation better as you do, all other advice could be invalid or irrelevant. Justin Jackson was writing about a somewhat similar situation, when he was about to make a decision, and asked for advice, please read it: https://justinjackson.ca/costs
Good luck!
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