Hey IH,
Last year I posted on Reddit about ArtScan, an iOS app I built in summer 2024 just to learn the OpenAI API. Point your camera at a painting, get the story behind it. No market research, no launch, no plan. It somehow grew to ~20k downloads and ~$10k annual revenue on 30 to 50 organic installs a day, ranking for keywords I never targeted. I spent a year not fully understanding why it worked.
In July, I sold it on Flippa. The fun detail: the buyer had already bought two of my smaller apps before. Repeat customers exist in the micro-acquisition world too, apparently. It was a five-figure exit (low-to-mid, and I will leave it there). Not life-changing money, but very real money for a side project born out of curiosity.
Most people would take the win and rest. I took the win and immediately built the opposite product.
From "what painting is this?" to "make me the painting"
ArtScan answered an identification question. Curious people, museum visitors, folks finding canvases in their attic. Lovely audience, low willingness to pay: my average user was worth cents.
My new project, Ninth Salon, flips the direction: you upload a photo and it turns you (or your kid, or your grandma, or your backyard) into a classical oil portrait. Renaissance, Baroque, Belle Époque. It started as a real gift: I turned a photo of our daughter into a Renaissance portrait for my husband, and watching his reaction taught me more about intent than a year of ArtScan analytics. Identification is curiosity. A portrait of someone you love is a gift, and gifts have budgets.
What I kept from ArtScan
What I changed on purpose
Where it is today
Three weeks in: first real sales (tiny, but strangers paying), canvas pipeline live, and a launch scheduled on Uneed next week. I will report numbers as they become interesting.
The decision I keep second-guessing (genuinely asking):
There is no pricing anywhere on my landing page. Anonymous visitors see zero prices, zero "free", zero paywall talk until they have generated their portrait and love it. Classic CRO says I am burning trust. My theory is that for an emotional purchase, showing the price before the wow moment only gives people a reason to leave. Am I wrong?
Happy to answer anything about the sale, the pricing model, or building AI wrappers that people actually pay for.
PS: still have a full-time job, still building at night.
PSS: if you want to see the new one: https://ninthsalon.com
PSSS: still a lady, BTW. "Bros" still aren't the only ones who code ;)
It sounds like you had an interesting journey with ArtScan, and that kind of spontaneity can definitely lead to some surprising results. From my experience, launching without extensive market research can be a double-edged sword. On one hand, you might stumble upon something unexpected that resonates with users. On the other, without a clear understanding of the audience, it can be challenging to maintain momentum.
When I launched my own project, I initially focused on building what I thought was an amazing feature set without deeply engaging with potential users first. It wasn't until I started gathering feedback and iterating based on community insights that I really saw growth. For instance, I quickly pivoted from vague keyword targeting to focusing on specific pain points that my audience was facing, which significantly improved my SEO performance.
Regarding your point on keyword rankings, you might consider analyzing what's driving that traffic. Sometimes it's fruitful to backtrack and see if you can enhance that flow. Are those keywords yielding engagement and conversions? I've used tools in the past to benchmark performance across niche markets after identifying surprising keywords that customers gravitated towards. It can be eye-opening to see where your traffic is coming from and modify your content strategy accordingly.
If you're planning to pursue SEO more deliberately this time, consider setting a regular cadence for keyword research and content optimization. Experiment with different formats like multimedia elements or structured data—to enhance visibility. In my own journey, a consistent approach to content stacking and leveraging performance data made a significant difference in scaling.
Let me know if you want to dive deeper into any specific tactics or strategies you've considered!
Thanks for reading. Structured data and keyword research are in place and I run attribution queries against my own database rather than guessing. My bottleneck is not traffic or SEO cadence: I have had ~2,000 visitors and zero external sales, so I am deep in conversion research right now, asking the people who generated a portrait and did not buy.
Happy to share what they say once I have enough answers (so far zero ^^)
That makes sense traffic isn’t the issue if visitors aren’t converting. Speaking directly with people who showed interest but didn’t buy should reveal the real objections. I’d be interested to hear what patterns come up once you have enough responses.
"Charge at the emotional peak, not at the door" is the line that stuck with me.
Reading this as a potential buyer, the wow-first flow makes sense. I would still want one small expectation set before I upload: "Free to preview, pay to keep." If the price only appears after I've made something I love, I might care less about the amount and more about feeling that the reveal was deliberately held back.
That hint feels small enough to preserve the wow moment while making the payment step feel expected.
Have you asked people who generated a portrait but didn't unlock it what stopped them: the price itself, or when they first saw it?
That line about the reveal being "deliberately held back" is the sharpest way anyone has put this to me, and it explains something the data couldn't. You are the second person to ask for the same thing: someone on Reddit told me hidden prices read as bait. I had a version of it ("you see the result before paying") and removed it yesterday, reasoning that a pricing link in the header covered it. Your comment makes clear those are different problems. Discoverability is a link. Expectation is a contract, and "free to preview, pay to keep" is a better contract than anything I wrote.
On your last question: I sent that exact survey 24 hours ago. Sixteen people who generated a portrait and never unlocked it, six numbered options, price and timing separated on purpose. No answers yet. I will come back to this thread with what they say, whatever it is.
Honestly, hearing that my comment helped is really encouraging for me too :3
I'll be waiting to see what comes back from the survey, whatever the result is.
I'm building a few small products myself, so exchanges like this matter a lot to me. We get to share what we're seeing and learn from each other while we're still figuring things out.
so far none replied yet lol ... but i guess it is ok.
don't hesitate to share your projects if you want a fresh eye on it ;)
That invitation honestly made me smile, so I'll take you up on it :3
I'm testing FeedMonitor Decision Brief, a small research service for early AI SaaS founders making pricing, free-tier, credits, or AI-cost decisions. I use comparable founder cases, including changes that failed, to help identify one metric to measure and one test with a stop rule.
I'm still validating it, with 0 paying users. The problem I'm running into is that founders clearly have these questions, but most can ask other founders or GPT for free. I don't yet know whether this is a paid problem or just better-organized free research.
If you were still deciding on "free to preview, pay to keep," would a private brief with comparable cases, a metric, and a test be worth $49 to you? Or would the feedback from Reddit and IH already be enough?
Please be blunt. That's what I'm trying to learn before building more (
This is incredible
The strongest signal is that the founder has already monetized one product, sold it, and then deliberately changed the value proposition with the next one. There’s real commercial learning behind this launch.
Thank you for your comment. It is interesting, I love to hear everyone else point of view ..... The truth is yes, art market is high and there is money, I just took a personal opportinity + old exprience to do something. right know i can't say it is succefull, I must wait a bit ^^
That makes sense. The previous exit gives this launch an interesting starting point. Would be good to hear how the next few weeks go — what’s the best email to reach you on?
off course, I will share project data often, I hope with good news lol , just follow me here
Absolutely — looking forward to seeing how it develops. Good luck with the launch.