When to move on?
I had read often here and in twitter that we should not sticky in just one project, if this project does not get traction.
I'm not sure if there is some guide or a specific time frame for such a thing...
There is some tip over this? Like how measure if we keep trying to envolve one project to get customers or to move on and try a new idea?
I'm asking because recently I publish my first project/product, but a long of the development I had already some new ideas for new products.
I don't think there's a rule...
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good point, but do you think is valuable to try get some time to try/validate new things? Or should we keep focus?
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Hey, I know this isn't your question, but have you checked out RemoteOk? It is a similar product.
One thing they do is let you sign up to have jobs emailed to you. You might consider adding a sort of email list feature (doesn't have to be too fancy) to get people to sign up and have your remote jobs mailed to them regularly.
Just my 2 cents. Good luck!
yep I have checked remoteok, yeah it's pretty similar there are others like remotelyawesomejobs.com remotebase.io and probably a lot of others, normally I used these websites when I was looking for a new remote position...
But even though there are other concurrents I decided to give it a try as they do not to exactly what I want here I describe briefly https://www.indiehackers.com/forum/show-ih-remote-index-a-remote-job-aggregator-focused-in-give-details-about-company-06ca793c57
When I was searching for a position I'd do like: Check github (to see repositories and who works there, to see if there are other good co-workers, I'd go in crunchbase to see about $ of company, I'd go in linkedin to check employees, I'd go in glassdoor to read feedback and check about salary, as well payasa, I'd look in their website/facebook/twitter too check numbers and about the product, I'd read some blog post to see what they are doing, and I'd try to check how is the hire process.
So I thought I could kind of automatize this process and bring most of these informations together in one platform, it's mainly why I started remoteindex
Yeah definitely it is in my backlog I think it is really valuable I will give it some priority
Thx for the feedback 💪
What's your product/service? Is there a market already with competitors?
Hey, yeah actually there are a couple of competitors (not exactly trying to solve what I want to solve, but there are a couples with good reputation), the product/project came from my own need https://remoteindex.io I've been working as a remote software engineer for some years now, and the opportunities normally don't say to much about the company whos is hiring, is like you need to know X, Y and Z, and have X years of experience, but what about the other side, what is the company doing, who works there, what they do opensource, what about $$? so is what I'm trying to solve in my project...
the end goal would be that you would come in remoteindex and say "I'd like to work with .NET in a company that had received a Serie A and pays around ~100k and accepts work from Portugal", and so you would get a result of open positions that match the criteria, and by acessing such opportunities you would be able to see details about the company (opensource, press, coworkes, $, etc..). It's a bit far to answer these question, but that is kind of my goal, to try give a good perspective of the company that have a vacancy than only the job position...
@krolow yes there are lot of competition for remote jobs board. You can differentiate your side by creating type of collections e.g. Series A companies from Europe, Series B companies from Asia, Remote engineering jobs in fastest growing American comapnies etc. and put them on the top. It will distinguish your site from others.
thanks for the insight, might be really something to apply 👍
yohh... just to say the topic question was not a giveup of my initial project, but more like how long I should try on this?
One of good factors as that a long of the development of the idea, some otther product ideas came up a long (some needs from my own project), so i was kind of ask my self like how much time I should spend in try the initial ideia to make work or try to move on for some other idea? 🤔
You can divide time between your current project and new idea. Try to launch new idea and if you see it will get more traction compare to another then divide time accordingly. I did same for my two project Bot Stash & Quick Code.
Yeah I'm thinking about that as the new idea might be something that I could use in my own project I think I will try to prototype so I can use it and also validate with some landing page! thanks again 💪
Ok. That's pretty cool. Sounds like a two-sided marketplace. Who's paying you, how is it a business?
People seeking jobs pay a fee?
Or do the companies?
What's the intended business model?
Can you name 2 competitors, and approximate yearly revenue? (something to benchmark potential success against?)
i.e. - ConvertKit, which Nathan Barry shared his strategy on the IH podcast, I think episode #8. He knew the marketplace for email marketing software was huge. Mailchimp was doing like $400m annually. and other companies were doing $200m, $80m.
A market that size you can grow a business to $50k MRR and it's not too unbelievable to accomplish because there was room.
I'd say if you're competing in a marketplace that overs other solutions for free. (i.e - LinkedIn) becareful, Because you might now have a business.
Not saying your company idea isn't possible. Odds are there is 100% a business model you can add to that idea and make it profitable.
All i'm saying is, make sure there's a business there and not just free. because 'free' never paid no bills. ;)
yeah those initials questions I had kind of answer by myself
I thought about and I'm thinking in keep the first option companies... Why?
So companies pay to post, but they need result!
Some of competitors and well indexed by google and well known by who is looking for remotes jobs is remoteok.io and weworkremotely.com
What both lack?
They just say me about the vacancy, not about company, is what I would like to solve.
What I see as my business?
I do see a highly profile programmers that are probably working for someone else but still keep one eye open for new opportunities, and when you are already employed is not any open position that caught your attention is a bit more than that, is about $, who I would work with, the kind of project, perks and etc...
So what I'd try is focus in this profile of companies. what I'm trying is to come with as much of informations as possible about the company to help the employee decide if is a good vancancy to apply. So my plan is if I start to get a good amount of visitors because I have good informations, I can start to create a plan to charge companies to be in my website. This would involve like:
I haven't focus initially in the paid part because in a job board u need visitors, so firstly I need to see if I get some trafic.
what do you think about this plan?
Hi @krolow. I have a startup in this space and was disheartened to find some job boards scraping sites like mine, pasting jobs on their own "aggregated" sites for free, then making money by selling ads alongside the job posts. I'm certainly not saying you should stop or keep going, just an FYI. Best of luck!
Yeah it’s not a bad idea. I checked the link you sent with pieters annual revenue. $100k more or less.
Not sure what other job boards are doing. The question is whether or not there is enough space for you to build a sizeable business.
First; you’d have to unequivocally be able to state I want to make $X per month and I’ll Be happy.
Depends if X is possible in your market. If it is and you’re passionate about the idea. Then I wouldn’t stop in 3 months if I had “no traction” things take time to build.
Also; it’s a pretty cool idea. Do you know about toptal.com apparently (I could be wrong) I once heard they were doing way more than $50m/ YR.
Again, I could be wrong. But if that’s true. Maybe you can do some kind of two sided headhunter marketplace.
Only the best companies. And the best employees.
Or maybe only the best companies. Turning down other companies who don’t meet your platforms standards.
Could be a good way to build some notoriety.
I’d definitely recommend not just posting all engineering jobs you find just with more detail. Because in that space, any competitor who already has the traffic can simply add a few lines of data and BAM, no need for you.
What do you think?
thx again, it seems that curate the list is a pretty good approach, I will think more about this and try to go in this direction 💪
I will follow this idea of 3 months idea and try to get traction and see where it goes.
So just to complete, as there are a couple of competitors in the area, I'm not sure if I should keep trying hard to accomplish what I'm visioning or if I should set some kind of timeframe to try accomplish what I'm looking for and if I don't get there try a new thing
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yoo thanks for such comment, I think it makes sense a lot!
I will consider such a flow for my current product/project to give it a life cycle of 3 months and see where it goes.
Like you said is not set in stone, so even though we are working in a new thing if some old thing get traction we can react on that.
Makes sense ✌️
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