June 12, 2018

Anybody want to signup to a Startup challenge?

Hi IHers 👋

Anybody here interested in joining my startup challenge?

I have another small group of makers, and the purpose is to give makers the confidence to launch something (small).

Effectively everybody launches the same type of product, we agree on some metrics about who is winner in advance, and what the timeframe involved is, and at the end there is an inspection where makers learn from each other at the end, but is also used to ask questions for support as throughout.

Thoughts?

Edit: collating all the people is proving tedious - can you add your deets to the spreadsheet and I’ll be in contact with a poll shortly to choose the product https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QRuyQuMnNQYr1ZqgiU7KhrshI1JuFpFwPmDzJ6-BV94/edit?usp=sharing


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    I would love to participate in something like this. As long as the agreed upon projects are well scoped and fairly small, I think this would be an amazing way of improving individuals skills. Especially if there were a postmortem discussion with participants to find pitfalls/successes specifically with the "winner" and people who do not perform well.

    Where do I sign up?

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      collating all the people is proving tedious - can you add your deets to the spreadsheet and I’ll be in contact with a poll shortly to choose the product https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QRuyQuMnNQYr1ZqgiU7KhrshI1JuFpFwPmDzJ6-BV94/edit?usp=sharing

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      Hey - I’m timeboxing this to make sure it is small. Ultimately everyone involve will had to (dis)agree & commit.

      I drafted some rules - https://medium.com/12startups/12startupschallenge-34170850f45a

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    Wait, I love that idea! Except for the "the same type of product" part. I'd prefer a contest where Indie Hackers already have a product idea or ongoing prototype they're working on or really want to get started.

    And then yes to metrics, timeframes, maybe stages (development, marketing, user acquisition, growth).

    Now that's my type of game!

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      See my response below but this is a learning curve.

      https://medium.com/12startups/12startupschallenge-34170850f45a

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      What you are describing is real life. We are all already competing to produce products. I think the idea of having a theme for the projects is more to help people see where they may be doing something wrong. If my project flops, but another persons project succeeds, we can compare notes and see what it is that I did different that led to my failure compared to their success. My impression is that this is more of a learning experience as opposed to a mastermind group.

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        Absolutely more of a learning experience. Always to promote a different way of thinking (maybe not everything has to be built from scratch..)- and to make ppl aware of what is involved in shipping.

        https://medium.com/12startups/12startupschallenge-34170850f45a

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        Except the problem with this idea is that somehow we are going to figure out who succeeded and failed in a short timeframe. That's just not realistic. We all know it can be a long slog to get to a winning product.

        If everyone is going to try to build a business, it needs to be in an area they know and are willing to work on long term.

        I like the idea of a startup challenge to get people to launch something, then it morphs into a mastermind group to grow these things over the long term.

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          I would be stoked if it morphed into something long term but ultimately I want people to get confidence that they have shipped something. I would be keen to have an initial ‘winner’, a group debrief and then a checkin again in X time? Thoughts?

          https://medium.com/12startups/12startupschallenge-34170850f45a

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          OP explains this in the post, "we agree on some metrics about who is winner in advance", the metrics for a winner are agreed upon in advance. The purpose being "to give makers the confidence to launch something (small)". Seems that you may be missing the intent here.

          You, like the person I originally replied to, are thinking of the "Startup Challenge" that everyone is already playing called real life.

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    Hi everybody - collating all the people is proving tedious - can you add your deets to the spreadsheet and I’ll be in contact with a poll shortly to choose the product https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QRuyQuMnNQYr1ZqgiU7KhrshI1JuFpFwPmDzJ6-BV94/edit?usp=sharing

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    Hi all,

    The challenge suggestions are now available.

    https://medium.com/12startups/julychallenge-c5d20d425882

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    This sounds like fun! I'd be in.

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      collating all the people is proving tedious - can you add your deets to the spreadsheet and I’ll be in contact with a poll shortly to choose the product https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QRuyQuMnNQYr1ZqgiU7KhrshI1JuFpFwPmDzJ6-BV94/edit?usp=sharing

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    Liam, I'm interested in this as well! Would love to learn more. I'm a new developer looking to grow my skills, get better at making and shipping my own side projects.

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      collating all the people is proving tedious - can you add your deets to the spreadsheet and I’ll be in contact with a poll shortly to choose the product https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QRuyQuMnNQYr1ZqgiU7KhrshI1JuFpFwPmDzJ6-BV94/edit?usp=sharing

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    I'm down to join. Long time developer here.

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      collating all the people is proving tedious - can you add your deets to the spreadsheet and I’ll be in contact with a poll shortly to choose the product https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QRuyQuMnNQYr1ZqgiU7KhrshI1JuFpFwPmDzJ6-BV94/edit?usp=sharing

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      Cool. Have you shipped anything interesting?

      Find out more about the challenge here - https://medium.com/12startups/12startupschallenge-34170850f45a

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        @willpower_iam Yeah I've shipped a few things!

        https://listninja.co is my latest - It's a marketing enrichment/segmentation tool for your mailing lists. You connect it up, and you get back a huge profile on each of your subscribers as well as a summary of the topics, job titles and industries your customers are interested in/reside in. It's great for early stage product validation/customer development. We also index your subscribers' content on other social media platforms so you can do marketing automation based on something someone says/does on a platform that is external to your email list.

        https://productvalidator.com/ - This one I did in a weekend, basically a search engine for your product ideas. You put in a few words about your idea, we return questions being asked about that idea, groups where your target customers might reside (facebook, linkedin, reddit, etc), potential competitors as well as the search terms being used about that idea. Justin Jackson mentioned it in his talk this year at MicroConf. I've got a pretty nice update planned for it within a month or so.

        -- Jimmy

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    I'm interested.

    What kind of timeframe are we talking about? A week? A month? A decade?

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      collating all the people is proving tedious - can you add your deets to the spreadsheet and I’ll be in contact with a poll shortly to choose the product https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QRuyQuMnNQYr1ZqgiU7KhrshI1JuFpFwPmDzJ6-BV94/edit?usp=sharing

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      I think this will be more whatever the group decides as timeframe however I’m totally happy to match where required ie if some people want a 2 month challenge, then try find someone else.

      https://medium.com/12startups/12startupschallenge-34170850f45a

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    @iamwillpower Sure this is something I'd be interested in. I agree it would be better if we can create different types of products. I have some ideas and this would be a good opportunity to start one of them.

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      collating all the people is proving tedious - can you add your deets to the spreadsheet and I’ll be in contact with a poll shortly to choose the product https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QRuyQuMnNQYr1ZqgiU7KhrshI1JuFpFwPmDzJ6-BV94/edit?usp=sharing

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      The ‘same type of product’ is causing a bit of contention. Would you consider Levis and K-mart jeans (clothes) as the same type of product? Would you consider Intercom & wip.chat (SaSS to an extent) the same?

      Jump on board man :)

      https://medium.com/12startups/12startupschallenge-34170850f45a

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    Not sure I can join the challenge, but just wanted to say this a great idea.

    If I can help let me know.

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      Thanks mate. I actually have something else planned for you & levelsio & some other :saidtoomuchalready:

      Would you be open to a DM?

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        For sure, just followed you.

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          Thanks mate. One way which you can help would be to join the group and help answer questions. One of the challengers suggested to have an expert or someone experienced in the field join this group to give pointers and answer questions - and I immediately thought of you. Would be awesome but no bother if you cannot :thumbsup:

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    Hey @iamwillpower i would love to join you. I've been building things but not a great product that people would want. Would love to learn from this experience.

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      collating all the people is proving tedious - can you add your deets to the spreadsheet and I’ll be in contact with a poll shortly to choose the product https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QRuyQuMnNQYr1ZqgiU7KhrshI1JuFpFwPmDzJ6-BV94/edit?usp=sharing