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How do you create your legal sites?

Besides the actual content of your app, do you worry about the legal pages (i.e. terms & conditions, privacy statement, …)?

If so, do you use generators to create them or hire lawyers to write them for you?

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    I see alot of people saying they use generators. Which ones do you use?

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      The one I use personally is GetTerms.io. I think GetTerms is easy to use and the price is reasonable compared to some of the other options. I've used them for all of my side projects.

      You can actually get something put together for free using a tool that Shopify provides: https://www.shopify.com/tools/policy-generator/terms-and-conditions

      I covered a lot of the options on my WordPress plugin's blog (https://termsplugin.com/blog/terms-of-service-wordpress/) if you want a longer breakdown.

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      I ended up using these generators:

      Privacy Policy: https://www.privacypolicygenerator.info/
      Terms Of Service: https://getterms.io/ -- Thanks for the recommendation, @bjplink
      Impressum: https://www.e-recht24.de/impressum-generator.html

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    free templates / generators that I modify to suit my business, don't have money to spend on lawyers 😄

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    Use a generator and later on consult a lawyer to review it.
    A good generator nowdays will have 500-1000 questions to cover a lot of use cases

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      500-1000 questions!? I came across generators that didn’t even ask one besides the website name 🤐

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        there a different qualities of services :)
        if you want to be GDPR compliant you need to specify exactly what with who and how you are handling the users data.

        iubenda.com is quite good this one as well https://datenschutz-generator.de/

        This are not so good ones: (well it depends on your product but but there a limitations)

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    Hey Filip; I hired a lawyer to do it for me. Although they generally work off of templates they will add things specific to your business on there. I prefer knowing that my legal pages have a lawyer’s stamp of approval. It’s worth the expense!

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      I prefer knowing that my legal pages have a lawyer’s stamp of approval.

      This part is vital!
      That also has the bonus of knowing who to ask again if someone challenges you about it.

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    I based mine (for https://chatper24.app) off Basecamp's policies: https://github.com/basecamp/policies

    They're open source and free to use as long as you add an attribution. They're also concise, well written and not really "legalese" so it's easy to understand. I'd highly recommend it!

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      (btw. the link to your website seems broken)

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        Ah bugger, mistyped the URL ... https://chapter24.app

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      That’s a great resource! Thank you for this link!

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        No worries :). Glad you found it useful

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    For startups, use myfancyapp.com, which is free and fast, takes less than a minute to create legal pages. Once you can afford a lawyer, hire them to spend couple hours (couple grands $) to modify the legal pages.

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      Thanks for your recommendation. I just use this service, it works fine, just one click to generate the privacy page.

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    Haven't seen anyone mention it yet, but I love Avodocs. Great resource with a number of templates (both free and paid).

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      That is an awesome tip! And the pricing looks super fair!

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    It depends, if it is an app that stores personal information of registered users in the database (such as emails, names etc) then I would consult a legal adviser, just to make sure to comply with GDPR and other regulations.

    Otherwise, if it is a simple app that doesn't collect any data, then I would go for a privacy policy generator or get inspired by the ones used by the competition.

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      Agreed. However, the moment you have user accounts (even if it is just with an email address) it basically is personal information, isn’t it?

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        Yes, correct.

        According to the European Commission: "Personal data is any information relating to an individual, whether it relates to his or her private, professional or public life. It can be anything from a name, a photo, an email address, bank details, your posts on social networking websites, your medical information, or your computer’s IP address".

        Source: https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/IP_12_46

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    generators. If I had the revenue, I'd eventually hire a lawyer to provide a more legally tight contract. Less revenue means less customers. Less customers means less people interested in suing you.

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      Less customers means less people interested in suing you.

      That made me laugh! 😄

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