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12 episodes and 15,000 downloads

The Software Engineering Unlocked Podcast reached 15,000 downloads this week.

Over the last 6 months, many things have happened. I started the podcast just with the hunch that I'll like doing that, and luckily I was right.

I really love producing podcasts. And today, I finally launch it on Product Hunt. If you have some time, I'd love for you to check it out and leave some feedback. 👉https://www.producthunt.com/posts/software-engineering-unlocked-podcast

Also, I wanted to share the five main lessons I learned along the way:

1.) Producing a great show is a lot of work

I did not expect that it will take me that long to produce each episode. I spend on average 4 minutes for each 1-minute recording. In the beginning, I recorded way too long (over 90 minutes) with the idea of reducing the show later on, so that I have enough great content. I'm not doing that anymore, because, it gives you much more focus for the interview if you know you have let's say 50 minutes max to get it right. I also experiment with different tools to reduce and automate some of the work. Normally, I edit the podcast with Audacity, but I switched to descript for the last episode because it lets you edit the podcast like a text document and creates a transcript at the same time. There are still a few features that I miss in that tool, but, I definitely recommend checking it out.

2.) Getting the process rolling

In the beginning, I had a hard time finding guests. Funnily, the more V.I.P. guests were the higher were my success rates. So, many not so "well-known" people just never responded, or said they did not have the time to be on my podcast.
It was also quite a challenge to keep track of conversations, especially because the happened everywhere. Right now, I use Trello, to keep track of who I contacted (on which platform) and what the status is. I also prepared a document that includes the interview instructions that I send to each guest. The invite message is never based on a template but written individually for each person.

3.) Being amplified by thought leaders

I'm very grateful that some very influential people - such as Courtland Allen, Scott Hanselman, Cassidy Williams, Suz Hinton, Dan Abramov - took a chance on me and help me by amplifying my tweets. This definitely helped me kickstart the podcast. Apart from that, I'm not marketing the podcast in any way. I just do not enjoy the promotion of the podcast - it's probably the only thing about it that I do not like. So, I accepted that, and I focus purely on creating awesome content. The best content I can. I hope over time, that will speak for itself.

4.) Do not follow every advice

I also read a lot of advice from others about how to make a podcast successful. One of the ideas that came up quite frequently, was to prepare tweets that your podcast guests can share in order to reduce their burden. I like the idea of reducing the burden for the guests but also felt weird when "putting words in their mouth". So, yeah, I tried that, but it never felt right, and I haven't had a single person use the prepared tweets. So, I stopped doing that. There is also other advice that did not work for me, especially around researching, editing or producing the episode. I think, learning from others is important, but once you got a bit of a grip, it's even more crucial to listen to your own instincts.

5.) Finding the right podcast host

I researched a lot about which podcasting host to use. I wanted something reliable, that would not break the bank. I was suspicious of the completely free ones because if it's free, it normally means you are the product. In the end, I decided to go with simplecast. It won over libsyn because the UI is so much nicer and intuitive. I also thought about pinecast, and in hindsight, I might choose them. I did not, because I was afraid if they provide enough reliable uptime. Turns out, simplecast was down right after I released my first episode. So, so much for that!

Well, that's it. I hope you got something out of those five lessons.

If you haven't, please check out the Software Engineering Unlocked podcast here 👉se-unlocked.com, and give it some love through feedback on ProductHunt 👉https://www.producthunt.com/posts/software-engineering-unlocked-podcast.

Also, let me know in the comments if you have more questions. It would mean the world to me!

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    Hi @Madamdo, loved listening to the interviews on the site. Kinda liked the email that was sent when I first signed up. I generally hate automatic emails but yours stood out. Keep up the good work.

    Btw how do you manage your work and stay organized? I imagine its a wordpress site right?

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    Great insights into starting a podcast.

    I thought the interview with @csallen was excellent and made some notes on my site. Definitely sharing in my next newsletter 😀

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      Hey Paul, that's so great to hear! Thank you so much! It's a great summary!

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    Congrats! Launching my podcast as well called SaaS Boss and found that it's challenging to bet people I interview to share very valuable info and make it replicable and structured instead of just talk talk talk. What was your experience with it?

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      Hm. No, I haven't made that experience. I think developers wear their hearts on their sleeves. In my experience, they are quite candid about their experience. It's harder with founders though, but if the story isn't about success or failure, and you phrase the questions accordingly, I feel people are open to sharing.

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    Did you indulge in any marketing or 15000 downloads are organic so far?

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      This is completely organic. So, far, the only marketing I do is to post the release of a new episode on Twitter. I would not even call that marketing :-)

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    Michaela, I've upvoted the podcast and followed you :)

    It would be great if you could follow me back:
    https://www.producthunt.com/@tonixx/made

    PS: good luck with your project!

    1. 1

      Hey Toni, thank you.

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    Congratulations on the milestone, and kudos for a great writeup. If you ever feel like you need help with editing, just holler!

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      Thanks, I might do that.

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    I’m listening now the interview with Courtland Allen. It’s very interesting and useful thanks to you both.

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      Great that you like it. Thank you!

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    Thanks for sharing all these insights @Madamdo.
    I really like that you've decided what works for you and what doesn't.

    I've heard time and again to outsource, delete or delegate all the things you don't like doing. As the podcast grows, I hope you can find someone who is just as passionate about those things that you don't like doing, but they love to do.

    All the best with the launch.

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      Yeah, I'd love to outsource marketing and promotion of the podcast. Maybe also some of the editing. I hope I'll be able to do so next year!

      In the next few months, I want to have more professional artwork. That will be the start of outsourcing. :-)

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        I know there are some companies that do this specifically, so that's a huge help.

        Sweet Fish Media is a bigger fish 😂 and produces podcasts for Unbounce and other companies. Just for research, you might want to check them out.

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