The Indie Hackers Podcast July 24, 2020

The Most Sensible Debate on Hustle Culture and Work-Life Balance with Natalie Nagele and DHH

Episode #167

If you want to build a successful business, you have to be ready to work 24/7/365 to have a shot at success… or do you? Both Natalie Nagele and DHH bootstrapped their internet businesses to millions in revenue, yet they took different paths to get there, with DHH only putting in a small number of hours vs Natalie who ate, slept, and breathed her job as a founder in the early days. In this episode we discuss whether or not DHH's approach is truly repeatable for others trying to get their businesses off the ground, the limits to human productivity and happiness, and the role that society and hustle culture in shaping how we feel about our work as founders.

Show Notes

  • People-First Jobs – Natalie's new approach to finding jobs with healthy work environments

  • Wildbit – Natalie's bootstrapped software business

  • HEY – DHH's new approach to email

  • Basecamp – DHH's project management + internal communication tool

  • @natalienagele – follow Natalie on Twitter

  • @dhh – follow DHH on Twitter

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