At one point ‘marketing’ meant communicating commercial messages by way of print, broadcast, direct mail, phone, and outdoor advertising like billboards.
Today that’s coined ‘traditional marketing’ and now, by and large, means delivering commercial messages in any medium that's not online.
And even though it's got stiff competition from the Young Turk in ‘digital marketing’, traditional marketing isn't going anywhere.
David Ogilvy built an empire the traditional way with direct mail promotion and direct response ads placed in newspapers and there'll be more to follow his lead.
Ask an indie hacker, maker or bootstrapper right now and most will admit they don’t have the resources - or an actual need - to go the traditional route.
Newer mediums resulted in the aforementioned digital marketing tactics like SEO, Pay-per-Click, Content Marketing and Email Marketing.
Now there's a new kid on the block in Community Marketing. And it's a whole different beast from traditional or digital.
Because it's all about connecting as opposed to converting. With that here's 10 tips on how to engage in communities to grow a business that Ogilvey himself probably would approve of.
You're more than likely part of a community or communities relevant to your business or project. I mean you’re reading this on Indie Hackers right?
The buck doesn't stop here though. Facebook groups, slack channels, subreddits, message boards, websites, blogs, portals, forums, or any other online place where client fans and aficionados congregate is your target.
Because your audience and prospective clients don’t always fit into one neat little category.
Examples:
Both design and technology professionals converge on https://www.designernews.co/
The SaaS Products & Marketing Facebook group plays host to a wide range of entrepreneurs, marketers and consultants
So don’t think that communities are black and white. Indie makers wear a lot of hats from coder to marketer to the accounts payable dept. Go to standalone communities as well as crossovers communities in equal measure.
NB An increasing trend in Slack and Discord based communities lets you offer discounts for your product or service exclusively to respective community members, so well worth taking advantage of.
Emotional Connection: Tell people about personal wins and losses - like the steps you take to increase MMR or how you are burdened with churn
Ultimate Guides: Know how to find testimonials for your landing pages? Put it in a guide.
Tutorials: Know how to build a Stripe alternative with No code? Let the people know!
Resource Lists: Have a list you're currently using to teach yourself code? Share it.
Case Studies: If you've grown from 46,000 Monthly Organic Traffic in 4 Months, blueprint it and post it.
By and large the communities will either be in Facebook Groups, Reddit, Slack, Twitter, Discord, or independently or increasingly powered by Circle.
But that doesn't mean you have to create differing articles and posts for each one. For example you can create a long form article - like this - and then break it down into pieces to be used on other platforms.
Kanye enthusiast @harrydry hits this particular nail on the head with what content platforms engage with at https://marketingexamples.com/content/sharing
TL;DR
Indie Hacker, Reddit and Twitter (using threads) are all communities where long form content is king
Facebook, Slack and Discord groups engage with visual posts (Images, even memes)
Indie sites like Hacker News and Growth Hackers want you to drop links that will lead to a blog on your own or other sites
Think about how effective clunking a press release about your project or business in a community would be. You think it would connect with the audience? Think again because you'd get ignored and/or kicked to the kerb in no time flat.
People don't hang in these communities to be sold to. They want to fraternise with like minded people that revolve around topics like growth marketing or Ruby on Rails or Pule donkey cheese.
Take time and go through the high ranking posts in communities, find out the pain points and the terminology used and the advice or replies given. Then connect how your business or even simple community post can respectively solve or relate to the pain, jargon and recommendations you find.
Come on now. Let’s be honest. Who here actually likes writing content and articles? Nope, me neither (NB The rash of GPT-3 businesses chasing the success of @DannyPostma is indicative of this pain point as much as machine learning being soup du jour is).
A boon of community marketing means you can write long(ish?) form content like this and rework it in appropriate channels where best received as mentioned.
I can take this article, whittle it down to 240 characters per point and get 10 tweets out of it. Or a ten point tweet thread. And you can bet your bottom dollar I will. Check my Twitter timeline that I’m a man of my word.
Or I can rework the title to “Your lack of community spirit is killing your SAAS”, put it on Hacker News and link it to this article on my sites blog.
In fact I can get a double figure amount of posts out of this. But like pick and choose your spots because going all out war machine with repurposing is tantamount to spam. And guess what? Communities don't do. S-p-a-m.
What if you can't possibly squeeze another drop of engagement out of one article? There's a workaround for that.
All successful makers are essentially community marketers at hearts. They constantly have their ear to the ground and engage as much as possible.
So you take posts found on other platforms and link to them. It may give kudos, it may cast you in the light of talisman for all things indie hacked and strapped from the boot up.
EXAMPLES:
Heres @AndrewKamphey doing just that:
https://www.indiehackers.com/post/headlime-acquired-by-conversion-ai-438c399d48
Here's the head honcho @channingallen doing it too:
And that's because members aren't particularly bothered about you, your startup or side project. They’re bothered about the value you can give them, be it a product or service or just an article with advice or a case study about how you did something.
It's easy to engage in small communities in say Discord but that's basically because you probably like comfort zones.
Product Hunt can make or break a product and is probably the first acquisition channel makers and entrepreneurs think of. Cult of personality or not I’m still going to shoot my shot with the site. And so should you because as long as you prepare then it can be a springboard to stellar growth.
On that note Check out @MarieMartens Notion Checklist to help you with preparing for PH:
UPDATE: @andrewkamphey has brought @jadeCraven's PHLaunches.com to my attention so check that out too when taking on PH.
Again the raison d'etre of community is organic engagement. Fast food chain Wendy's OWNS with it Twitter strategy in a way Ronald McDonald could only dream of. Wendy's Twitter chops may well be the reason the hamburglar still has to resort to a life of crime.
Bottom line is the relaxed, carefree way Wendy's Twitter account engages has seen the chain experience its sixth year of consecutive sales growth.
If you’ve enjoyed this post or are ready to engage in communities, or both, you may get use out of my acquisition database at https://communitable.xyz/#makers. It has no less than 335+ communities and 570+ channels you can grow your business with.
You never know. You might like it.
Thanks a lot for sharing Ric!
Actually the entry in the database is your tweet from 1:26 PM · Mar 29, 2021 about the PH checklist. More exposure for you either way!
No worries @Mariemartens I think you or TallyForms are in the marketing swipefile I'm adding into my community database. Shows how makers post by example! Hope you don't mind!
I'm also building a Notion based dashboard for freelancers so I'll be signing up to Tally soon enough!
Awesome! Thanks for including us!
Thanks very much for making this Ric! I bought your communitable product last week and spent most of yesterday morning applying to join some of the Slack & LinkedIn Groups. Then this morning I realised I ought to start researching how to actually make the most out of joining these groups as part of my pre-launch plan. So your post came right on time. 😁
P.S I'd also recommend incorporating it into your communitable (maker) email/products as well. So future users have a point of reference.
Hey @Janinah. Check your email! I've sent you the marketing swipe file as promised!
Thanks Ric!
Hey Janinah,
Glad you're getting use of the database and this post!
You're in luck and I could save you a job RE: researching how to get the most out of joining groups. Ar this very moment I'm creating a swipe file that shows how other have engage effectively in communities with samples.
I'm including it both products: communitable.xyz/ and https://communitable.xyz/#makers so will send you the link to the file when its done :)
Yeah I did see your post re the swipe file and thought it applied only to the maker one for some reason - So glad to know it doesn't as I'm sure it will be a great resource - Looking forward to reading it!
Yeah I did initially think it would be for just the Makers Edition. But it'll be of use to both sets of users. So why not!
This hits me. I often feel I'm stuck in a rut with how to engage and market my product. Booking this for later.
Nothing truer @joekaiser. Personally engagement and marketing was a project killer for me. I've found with this project that if you know the right communities its a case of 1. Dropping value and 2. Linking back to your product. No 'Glengarry Glen Ross' tactics. Drop value and communities don't mind a footnote link at all!
add @jadeCraven's PHLaunches.com to the list of Product Hunt resources.
Had a look. Edited in!