Most LTD retrospectives are either victory laps from month 6 or rage posts from founders who got buried. Here's the boring middle: year 4, with a real dilemma at the end I'd love advice on.
Quick context. I run Produktly solo. All-in-one user onboarding tool (tours, checklists, NPS, surveys, roadmaps, changelogs). Competes with Userpilot, Pendo, Appcues etc. all that charge hundreds of dollars a month even on the cheapest plan. Produtkly starts at $19/mo.
The numbers:
Honestly, the initial reason I signed up was that AppSumo was paying $1,000 just to list a product. This felt like a crazy good deal at the time. I was early, broke, and that bonus alone was enough. I had basically zero expectations about whether anything would sell.
Then sales started trickling in. Best months hit multiple thousands of dollars. It's fluctuated a lot since, and lately it's been slowing.
Things I didn't think about going in but learned the hard way:
It's not that the upgrade is too expensive. It's that LTD customers picked you specifically because you weren't a recurring expense. You're in a different mental bucket than the SaaS subs on their card. Moving buckets feels like a betrayal of the original deal, even when the new plan technically covers different limits.
What helped me: accepting that LTDs are a different segment now. Referrals, reviews, case studies. Not a conversion pipeline.
It funded real runway when I had none. It surfaced every bug and edge case faster than any beta would have. It built social proof I'm still cashing in on. The AppSumo listing itself ranks for branded searches, and the reviews and Q&A on it do real persuasion work that I couldn't have manufactured myself. Got me real users when "real users" felt impossibly far away.
Here's the part I'd actually love input on.
AppSumo is still bringing in money. Less than before, fluctuating, but real revenue. The question I keep going back and forth on: is it still my best marketing channel, or is it cannibalizing paying subscribers I'd otherwise convert at $19/mo?
Hard to tell. The kind of person who buys an LTD might never have signed up for a subscription anyway. Or they would have, and the deal's existence is quietly undermining my paid pricing every time it runs.
I'm afraid to kill a channel that still works while I haven't proven a replacement. But I also wonder if keeping it on is the reason I haven't been forced to build one.
Yeah, probably. I wouldn't change much, except two things:
The ~$1k of real $19/mo cards next to $90k LTDs is the only slice that can silently fail and vanish.
If you export last 30d failed/past_due on the non-LTD Stripe book (email, amount, date, decline code), I’ll map failing $ by code in 48h free. No OAuth, no customer emails. Would you pay $29/mo for that automatic?
your post has a blank you left in there on purpose.
"a lot of LTDs never log in past month 1. [FILL IN your rough %.]"
that number isn't decorative. it's the denominator for every claim you make. the support load argument only holds if those buyers are still logging in. the cannibalization question only bites if they'd have paid otherwise. if 70% ghosted by month 3 you have ~340 active LTD users, not 1140 - and the whole picture changes. dead accounts don't cannibalize anyone.
my guess, ~60% confidence: that number is higher than you'd like and you haven't looked at it closely because it feels like it cuts both ways.
what does your login data actually show for anyone who bought more than a year ago?
Thank you for your post! I submitted my products to AppSumo, fingers crossed.