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A new social network for the future.
by
Rosie Sherry
https://auralite.io/
i call bullshit on this:
lol. the "first"? no way. really throws me off... there are hundreds of other folks attacking the same problem from the same vector.
i hope it succeeds though!
Yea, agreed. This has been tried SO MANY times before. And the model doesn't work.
The thing is, I see only tech junkies caring about "their data" and "privacy".
Most people have nothing to hide, quite the opposite. People will happily share their personal information, photos etc. online. Everyone knows how they look, where they work and what is their phone number anyways.
Worst that happens is that you get some spamy email from time to time or some marketing call on your phone.
People are not even worried about police or other entities listening to their calls. Nobody will do that for petty crimes like weed etc. and 99.99999% don't do anything more serious that is illegal.
Outside the tech world people literally don't care. You can't sell anything on privacy.
A quick look at Germany would say they are not tech junkies, but socially responsible citizens.
A quote, not mine, as good as I can remember it by heart:
I think I am being misunderstood here.
I am not saying that being reckless about your privacy and data is a good thing.
I am just stating the reasons that were given to me by non-tech people when I was asking them about privacy issues.
It's like me saying "people don't like vanilla ice cream" and you responding "but vanilla is so tasty!". I did not say that vanilla is bad. You confuse what I have and haven't said.
Your, literal, words:
If someone told you that and you don't agree, you could have made it clear.
Paraphrasing you, because that is what i like doing, It's like saying:
I am just saying "people don't care about privacy", but I don't make a moral judgement if that is good or bad.
You then mentioned "socially responsible citizens" and some quote further suggesting that you believe I claim statement "caring about your privacy is stupid and pointless". (Was I right or wrong about it?)
My response to that was: I don't believe in "caring about your privacy is stupid and pointless" and never said that. I said "(other) people don't care about privacy" and you misunderstood me.
A: "people don't care about privacy" ("people don't like vanilla ice cream") - factual statement that can be proven true or false
B: "caring about privacy is stupid and pointless" ("vanilla is not tasty") - moral statement that cannot be proven true or false, because it's simply subjective.
I never meant B. I always meant only A.
Is that clear?
I've seen a lot more people using signal over the past few months in the US.
my parents (> 70 years old) are into data and privacy... i mean, big time.
🤔
Oh, I don't argue those people don't exist.
When you talk about billions of people you can find a counterexample for everything. ;)
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they say they do. look at what they do. facebook is still the internet for so many people.
This.
Of course there are SOME people who care about privacy, no one argues that.
But there were already hundreds of attempts at "ethical social network" by now, often with heavy, heavy funding. Something would work by now, if people really cared.
It did not.
Nobody cares.
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Well, Okuna is still going at it. Part of the reason why the model does not work is because of the lack of regulation that big platforms such as Facebook are exploting.
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Criticism = Helping, if it saves me months of work on a bad idea. On the other hand, I think fake "supporting" should be declared a crime; (which unfortunately is a painful realism especially for larger corporates).
(personal opinion, feel free to disagree :) )
I think being supportive for ideas that you personally believe are not gonna work is doing more harm then good. I think of IH as a place where you can get feedback from people with a vast experience, and I would love to hear their opinions, be it pro or against my project. If someone would want to create a bicycle with 5 wheels because he thinks that's a good idea, will you be supportive just becuase you are on IndieHackers?
i'd ask that person what makes their wheel so special and unique! lol.
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i'm supportive... which is why i said:
... but, what i'm not about is saying shit like "first" when that's not true at all...
eh. i mean, whatever.
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Hmmm, only my 2 cents, but if you are the same dev than sitesauce, I would focus 100% on sitesauce that have an incredible potential
This!!!
He is just 18 and already have 4-5 products (as far as I can tell). I loved the idea behind Sitesauce and I think it has so much potential. He should continue working on that.
I have some concerns about this but not because privacy doesn't sell. I think you can sell privacy to SOME people. Privacy has value and I think people will pay for it.
My first concern is that the $99 per year model is incompatible with being a social network. Some people will be happy to pay but most people won't and when that happens the social side of the network breaks down.
Imagine I had 10 friends (like, real actual friends). Chances are 8 of my friends won't want to pay. That leaves myself and one friend using it. That won't really work as a social network.
There is however a model that might be compatible. Freemuim. Think Fortnite. Millions of people play that game every day and SOME of those people buy in-app purchases. Games are also a kind of social network, players play because their friends play.
The second concern is that growing a social network is really hard. Especially bootstrapped. Even VC funded companies struggle to do this.
This is interesting. What kind of in-app purchases though? I guess themes, flairs and similar decorative items.
Thanks for sharing it Rosie!
Hey Miguel!
Why the decisions of building yet another social network instead of joining forces with open source projects, such as Okuna?
The amount of negativity towards @m1guelpf is eerily reminiscent to the negativity thrown at Drew Houston on HN when he showed Dropbox to the world.
If Miguel can pull this off, a lot of you, much like those on HN will be eating your words.
@m1guelpf is a pro. Been such an awesome energetic influence to the Laravel community! Congrats on the launch dude looks great :)
Social Networks built for the open web should make use of the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) standard ActivityPub.
There's a growing, healthy, and viable ecosystem already making use of ActivityPub (such as Mastodon, Peertube, Pixelfed, Pleroma, et cetera).
I do hope this service pays attention and takes note of the opportunity to be a player in this space.
$99/year to be part of a social network is not very social. Why is it different than all the other closed communities?
While not same scale, here is a humble writing platform: midnight.pub - a side project I've been working on for month now :)
What do you want to build in midnight.pub? I have entered the website but didn't understand it well
"protects you from hate and harassment"
Translation "left wing views only please".
I think this is very much needed but might be hard to compete vs the giant Facebook is. I mean, see just what Google+ turned into. Yes, they might or might not have flaws in their user experience but they certainly had the resources and had a respectable number of users.
I think to disrupt that sector you have to do something they can't / don't want to copy (Facebook can and will copy any feature any other small player have). Let's say, the characteristic is you can't share things in public, they certainly won't copy that.
One thing for sure is Auralite has already started something and that's always good.
The landing page remind me with hey.com
Love this, please succeed
Your newsletter field does not allow @metab.rocks ( as a example ) addresses ?
This has been tried countless times before, you know that right? This approach doesn't work.
Yes, it has been tried before and I also thought that's an uninformed / wrong claim to be the first privacy-first social network.
Can you explain what you mean by "this approach doesn't work"?
Wasn’t App.com or .net the best approach ? But pay money to look at memes and useless videos, i don't know.
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Do you mean Mastodon?
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It's by @m1guelpf who is a super talented young guy
Yes, pretty much this, I stumbledupon it. And I think indie hackers can learn from it, whether it succeeds or not.
I share stuff to bring it to people's attention, help it gain traction or not. And let people make their own mind up.
Whatever happens, I'm sure @m1guelpf will learn things along the way.
I sure wish I was building stuff at his age.
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