launching our product in 5 days (so exciting, all nocode!) but i'm really struggling to build buzz around it. does anyone else feel like they'll never be able to catch up to the extroverts that are really good at self-promo? any tips?
Introvert(ish) here. I don't have a quick fix for this, but I also don't think a quick fix would do for growing a product.
In short I think it comes down to changing your mindset and habits in ways that help you "become" the kind of person who can put yourself and your product out there. (Sure, you have a launch coming up in a few days, but this won't be the end of your product growth activity — it'll be the beginning!)
You'll notice I added an "ish" at the end when I called myself an introvert in the first sentence above. That's because though our character traits are somewhat stable through life, they can swing wildly from moment to moment and from one context to the next. Psychologists distinguish long-term "traits" from short-term "states" in this way; you and I may have introverted traits, but we can enter into states of extraversion. For this reason, I try to be cautious about labeling myself in a way that doesn't give me flexibility.
A couple of good books here are Mindset by Carol Dweck and Me, Myself, and Us by Brian Little.
Here's what works for me. When I know I should do something that doesn't come naturally to me, I like to break that thing down into little pieces (sometimes so little that it seems silly) and commit to at least doing one of the little pieces on a regular basis. Basically: exposure therapy. It becomes easier over time. And then as it becomes easier, I gradually add more pieces to the habit until I'm regularly doing the large thing I originally struggled to do.
Again: you have time to grow into the roles that your startup demands of you.
The time advice is so good here! I feel like startups I've been employed at have always feel like a race to the finish, but a lot of people have said over and over since the launch the value of looking at this (and really all business ventures) as a long-game. So getting out of that "race" mindset and focusing on the little things you can change every day is definitely great advice!
Atomic Habits strikes again! Such a good book
Agreed. Though if you enjoyed Atomic Habits, I'd highly recommend the book from which some of the best insights from Atomic Habits were derived: How to Fail At Almost Anything and Still Win Big by Scott Adams.
great advice, thanks!
I'm a bit shy in that I've never liked building in public on super public channels, e.g. Twitter. However, in the early days of IH, I didn't mind doing it on my newsletter. I would send out progress updates every week on what I was working on and what had changed with the site. Often, I'd get replies from people who were excited, supportive, or who had questions or suggestions. It was extremely motivating, because I never wanted to have a week go by where progress hadn't been made.
So perhaps it comes down to just picking the right channel for yourself.
Another tip is that it helps to start by doing what's comfortable and easy. If you are posting a certain type of update in a certain type of place and it feels hard for you, then it's lose-lose. Worst-case scenario, you burn out. Best-case scenario, you build a big audience who's used to getting this type of content, and you're locked into doing something you don't like, until you burn out. You should build the type of audience who wants the type of content that you'll feel comfortable producing long term.
Finally, building in public is not necessary. There are plenty of other ways to market and grow your business! I'm a fan of finding something that works well and sticking to it, and saying no to most other things.
What do you think is different about a newsletter? Is it just that it feels like you're closer to the people on there?
Hmm, it felt less public. There are no retweets on a newsletter, no likes, no public responses. Podcasts are similar. It's a bit like talking to yourself.
Yeah less like broadcasting to the world. I could see that
Hi,
I decided not to chase the big release, but to build a waitlist slowly and try to get more and more people excited about my product. I also want to see how my target users will look like. Still something I need to explore more. Maybe it’s also as I have a hard time going for a Big Bang release.
I think my approach can take a lot of time, so your release strategy can be quite a good one. I believe, in the end there is no right or wrong here, but trying and grinding and finding a need that you can fill.
Ferhat
http://exploo.com
your product looks super legit :) what have you been doing to get more people excited about your product?
So far, I have been showing it to close friends and colleagues and posted here on IndieHackers and on Reddit (/entrepreneur subreddit).
After getting some feedback I am on the edge of not moving forward with the idea. Right now I am exploring some other ideas.
aw I'm sorry to hear that, but it's always good to learn more so you can follow the best path forward! (or at least a potentially better path.) were you thinking of pivoting the offering or changing your target demo or something a little different altogether?
Hey,
so I have multiple options now. I am still not giving up as I think that the product has a lot of potential. I am trying to find the right team where I can test it and see what the feedback is.
I also created myself a Twitter account a while ago that I want to start using: https://mobile.twitter.com/_fbeyaz
I decided to get involved more in the indie hacking community and also start marketing the product I am building.
In the meantime I am trying to figure out what audiences and topics sound interesting to me. I am doing this to limit myself to those audiences and topics I am really passionate about.
Do those points sound familiar to you? :)
Definitely! It's just a matter of finding what works
I've started scheduling Tweets a few hours/days in advance, it takes some of the nervous energy out of it. It also helps with consistency.
Read "Show Your Work" by Austin Kleon. Best pill to cure impostor syndrome
I just downloaded it! Might have to put it on nonfik so I can take notes 😂
omg so many great thoughts here! really sad i missed these during my existential crisis 😂
Woot woot, nocode in the house!
I actually just launched my first nocode project into the wild today (posted about it here on IH).
But more relating to your question, I made the switch on Twitter to change my personal account into one that posts my #BuildInPublic topics about 2 months ago.
It feels so weird, and I definitely cringe at my own stuff sometimes.
My thinking is that:
Oh, and we're all imposters haha. You've got this!
I love this line: We're all imposters. So true!! Even though Twitter makes it feel like everyone know what they're doing. Also you launched TriviaScout in 3 days that's insane!
Yeah. Understand. My simple advice would be just show up the main feature of your product and prepare upfront before the launch. Read a few articles/Twitter threads on how to launch on Product Hunt, Betalist, Reddit, etc.
Learn how others launching and take notes. With this in mind you have great chances to be on top of the list.
Participate in communities/ channels that best suit you. E .g I'm not on Twitter, but love networking on slack channels, and via events/webinars
I thought Slack would be a good channel, but it's done surprisingly poorly for us in comparison to other channels like Reddit and what not ¯\(ツ)/¯
Hmm well I think it depends on the communities you're in. E.g Indie Worldwide is a great one. The people there are very friendly and interactive. The founder of the channel is also great at facilitating conversations and making introductions. I also think being in niche channels helps e.g. if you're a content creator being in slack channels specifically for content creators helps.
So to summarise:
Make sure slack channels you join are active and members are regularly posting, helping & interacting with another. So people start to recognise your face when you're commenting, creating posts etc.
Join groups relevant to your business/Product e.g channels specifically for Indiehackers rather than entrepreneurs in general.
interesting, thanks! I know the Indie Worldwide Slack is a benefit reserved for paying members. that kind of matches up with a lot of specialized communities or boards I've looked into, where the really active and supportive ones involve a fee along the way.
(indiehacker/subreddits and a handful of others being the big exceptions)
so you do think it's worthwhile to jump in on paid membership communities, based on your own experience? I've been on the fence
Well the slack for Indie Worldwide is free, however to join the founder matchmaking there's a fee.
I think you're right though as there is a fee for the most active/ helpful ones. However, I haven't paid for those either as I'm also on the fence 😅 Having said that, I probably will pay the fee in the future though once I've figured out which ones are most active with the most value/ROI
ohh, that's so good to know, thank you!! if you gain any insight, please do share here on IH (I'm sure plenty of people would find that post helpful). I'll do likewise 😀 thanks for all your thoughts on this!
No worries 🙂
I decided to create a newsletter as a way of interacting. Talking to people directly is not easy for everyone . I think just sending an email /tweet regularly is a good starting point.
Going through same problem 😅
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I know the feeling of struggling to build buzz and generally get the word out.
No tips, sorry, other than to just keep trying and learning.
Once you've got over whatever fear you may have had of putting yourself out there, it can be hard to keep on going when almost nobody is watching. But, if you give up you get nowhere.
Haha this is the daily struggle, right? Chances are no one cares about what you're saying but you have to act as if people do. I think you can also flip it around though — there's always a possibility that the next thing you do will be the thing that makes people care!
Yes, exactly.
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