Hello all, I am working on a platform to provide loans in a super niched market. My users are mostly business owners who themselves have their own customers. We are providing an installment payment method for their customers if they cannot pay full at once, but may be willing to pay a small portion for each month, say 3 months, and 6 months.
I've contacted SynapseFi which has this lending product to use, the product sounds perfect and may product us all-in-one solution for lending. If I use SynapseFi, I don't need to deal with any license and compliant issues, which is good. But problem is the monthly fee is over$20k, far above my budget for my garage-based side project. I will soon burn out all my cash if there is no VC money.
Actually all I need is to send money to business owner's account, and collect monthly payment from their customer via ACH.So I am also thinking to directly lend my own money to their customer and collect their monthly payment via ACH back to my account. But I am not sure if by doing this, it will cause some legal issue.
If you guys know any alternative to SnaypseFi or any affordable legal ways to do so, please kindly advise. Thanks & happly holidays!!!
I'm willing to bet that if you book a meeting with an executive at SnapypseFi, you could convince them to create a custom arrangement that would work for your startup. A plan that would grow incrementally with your revenue or some type of arrangement that makes sense.
Whatever your profit margins are when you are a larger company, should be the same as when you're a small company right? So if you can justify paying over $20k per month later when you're bigger, that means you should be able to divide the cost into a per loan fee today. Is this inaccurate? Aren't all the costs incremental per loan?
Since they're also a startup, the CEO can do whatever he/she wants to do just like you can do whatever you want with your business. If you propose a reasonable deal, I think you have a good shot at making something happen. You sound like a motivated individual, isn't that what they want in a client? You might turn into a whale for them. Just make sure you understand their fee structure inside and out so you can propose a win win for both.
-What about simply dividing the monthly fee into a proportional per loan fee?
-Or what about a deal that defers the fees until you get funded? You would still owe them the money, so they're not losing anything. The loan business is very profitable so you shouldn't have a hard time covering basic costs like technology service fees...... But obviously you would need to have a volume that justifies the monthly fee you owe them...unless you view it like a sunk cost or initial investment in order to build out your platform. If their service is going to help you grow faster and better, that's worth something. But if their fees start there, they're clearly dealing with companies who make a lot of money which means you're also going to make a lot so it might be worth it to do whatever it takes even if you have to eat 100k. For a business that makes a lot of money, you have to be willing and prepared to spend and do whatever you have to do to.
-If all else fails, what about partnering with one of their existing customers? You compensate them to let you work under their umbrella license temporarily. If they're already paying a monthly fee, doesn't that mean it wouldn't cost them anything to let you process your loans through them temporarily? Or if there is an additional cost to them per loan, you simply cover all that. Tell them you'll cover all the legal fees and will pay their lawyer fees to ensure everything's safe for them using their own lawyers.
Which you should be able to easily build into the loan fees otherwise you wouldn't even be considering their solution. Instead of you trying to make something this happen, you want the CEO to make this happen for you. The CEO could easily find one of his customers to use for this task. As long as you're willing to pay any and all costs/fees, it doesn't affect anyone negatively. Convince the CEO to make this happen for you.
-They are the perfect match for your business, why let something like a saas fee to get in the way of a customer that night turn into whale
-Add an addendum to the contract that gives them additional protection. For example, if things don't work out, they can nullify the agreement at any time.
-Whatever their reservations are, tell them you'll do anything to remove any risk from the equation.
I just realized there are a lot of financing solutions now...you should talk with the ceo's of one that won't be a direct competitor. Or maybe find someone who knows this business on clarifyfm.com
Wow Jeff. Your advices are so valuable and inspiring to me. Thanks! As a tech guy, I think I need to step out my comfort zone to talk to real people. Only by doing so will I know how to make the next step.
Tech guy, sales guy or any other guy, you only grow when pushed to do things that make you feel uncomfortable. We hear this all the time because it's true. It's also one of the challenges of working for yourself since it's really hard to get yourself to do things you don't feel comfortable with.
I work in that space. SynapseFI is not a good partner.
Can you elaborate a bit? Have you worked with them? What is disappointing you?
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Hi Damon,
Sounds interesting, but there is a lot to think through here. Who is taking the risk of the loan? Are you doing credit score checks for the business' customers?
To get VC money you will have to show you have a viable risk scoring model - that your default rate is industry standard or below.
Might be worthwhile to check out Splitit's IPO prospectus - https://www.splitit.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/1218786643_1_AUMattersReplacement-Prospectus-Splitit-Payments-Ltd.pdf
Other competitors here are https://chargeafter.com/ and https://www.divido.com/ (they are both going after the big players - not small businesses, and playing at the network part - similar to what Visa is doing, but for financing). https://www.afterpay.com/categories/all-stores is also a competitor.
Thanks for reply! It would be just me to take the risk of the loans. We will leverage data we got from Plaid to evaluate whether customer is eligible for a loan or not. I just did some study, and it turns out that I don't really need to depend on SynapseFi to issue the loan. If I can have legal, compliance issues cleared up and receive legal license to run my business, then I can lend the my money out without depending on any 3rd party. But I have to have lawyer and compliance offer teamed up (may just be contractors) if I do it all by myself.