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Balancing university & entrepreneuring is actually harder than I thought

It's finals season for me, and as I sit in my classes or work on my homework assignments, all I can think of is building and launching products.

Yes, I've thought about dropping out. Let me tell you why I haven't.

  • I pay relatively nothing. I have almost a full scholarship @ NYU. I've had to take $2500-$4000 loans once a year to cover Manhattan housing costs but for the value I've gotten so far (people, opportunities, exposure) $4000 a year is a small price to pay.

  • I wouldn't be here, Indie Hacking. Before NYU, I was consuming lots of Garyvee content because I knew I wanted to do this stuff but didn't know where to put that energy. During my first year at NYU, I think I had just moved on from the gateway drug of Garyvee onto the more potent stuff, Naval. Then I followed a crap ton of startup, VC, and crypto people and formed my own little collective knowledge base of successful entrepreneurs. I joined an entrepreneurship club, The InnoVention Society, and found like-minded people irl. Then during a meeting at the club's president's home, I met his best friend @matthenderson. Matt introduced me to all of this: Indie Hackers, Product Hunt, turning an idea into a product in less than a week, etc. For the past year, I've gone down a rabbit-hole, met more cool people (online & irl), and learned so much from them. I even launched a #1 Product Hunt product on my own.

  • What's my alternative? I currently don't have the money to just go travel. Before this year, my only alternative was to move back to the Bronx with my family. Luckily now, I have a few friends that live in Manhattan that would let me crash on their couches for a few months (Something I plan to do once I graduate so that I can continue building things that will eventually make me money). And I'm in my 3rd year of 4 years so I may as well finish it out, right? For the past 3 years, the upside to staying has been much greater than the upside to dropping out.

Nonetheless, It's been pretty hard balancing classes with building businesses. The hardest part is making time to work on my businesses. I very much don't care about my grades. I see it as "If I'm not getting an A++ then anything below that and above the passing grade is completely fine". But I still have to put in enough effort time to learn the materials so I can take the exams. It's a constant tug-of-war between, "school is a waste of time" and "okay, let me NOT completely fail this class because I still need a C to graduate". I even have a backup plan for if I need to get a job, I'll just apply as an operator or product manager using the experience I learn from working on my own businesses.

I think I mostly wrote this post to vent. A bit of self-therapy. I think this might be a case of just needing to "tough it out."

I very much dislike the bloatedness of the university academic system. Alot of what is taught is terribly useless. But, the access to incredible, like-minded people, the exposure to things I wouldn't have discovered on my own, and the experiences allotted due to living on Manhattan Island are the strings keeping me attached.

(lol thanks for reading my rant. It's 2am in NYC, a standard time to get a little vulnerable)

on December 11, 2019
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    Hey @antdke, 2am is the best time to get an unfiltered view of what's on your mind, so I'm proud of ya for writing this out.

    First of all: don't drop out of NYU

    • It's been five years since I've finished grad school, and I can wholeheartedly tell you that the entire world makes a first impression on you based on your degree - your chances of getting responses to cold emails, opportunities to speak during meetings with older people, the way your friends/peers introduce you to others - are noticeable different for people with and without degrees
    • Despite the classes being terribly useless (I agree and can vent about this for years), your reward is an alumni network who will more-times-than-not respond to cold emails/linkedin msgs asking for advice FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE. Think how hard it is to build a startup; now imagine if one part of the process was made easier - that's what a degree does (and btw this network is equally open to people with 3.0 GPAs as it is for 4.0's).

    Second of all: take a break from GaryV, NavalR, YC, etc

    • Honestly dude, their advice is gold. But holy shit is there too much advice out there that it becomes like an anxiety-inducing-molotov-cocktail; all these people preaching to hustle 25/7 and build something and I'm a failure if I use the bathroom non-productively without reading the millionth growth hack article has caused me more stress than I want to write about.
    • Those videos will always be there, maybe it's a good idea to go cold-turkey on them - if anything, just to start hearing your own voice again (ie. why you even want to do a startup)

    Finally: the only way I found to balance work & startup is to make them related

    • Right now you have two jobs: uni and side project. I'll be the first to call everyone a liar who claims to have a secret of balancing those. Instead, why not change the side-project to be related to stuff you're doing at school and vice-versa? That way, it doesn't feel like two jobs but instead feels like one-long-job which is more manageable
    • For example, some people substitute a class for research - you pick a project that has some academic merit but still advances your idea (eg. teaches you a tool you were going to use, gets you introduced to experts in that field, does customer discovery, etc), and find a professor who's happy to work with you because you help their publication quota
    • This is a tricky idea, but you're welcome to reach out if ya want some help brainstorming a way forward

    Sending good vibes from upstate NY to our cooler neighbors in the city. You'll get through this step in life, and you'll be that much stronger after NYU 👍

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      I wholeheartedly agree with your first advice. I plan to leverage the NYU brand for the rest of my life haha. It'll definitely be socially useful.

      Also, yeah as I've gotten into building stuff, I've consumed content like GaryVee and Naval a lot less. They did help build a mental foundation that I use when making a lot of decisions now-a-days. For ex: Naval's How to get rich without being lucky thread

      Balance is the most difficult. I'd say it's 60% projects and 40% school. I'll definitely pull through to the finish line. Can't wait for the obligatory school work to be over though haha.

      Thanks for your response btw, I really appreciate you in-depth response.

      Also, lol "cooler neighbors in the city". It's funny because it's true.

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    That was inspiring dude, more of this.

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      You're totally right. I'll finish. Having the university as a brand to leverage will be useful.

      And that survivorship bias is very true. There's an element of luck attached to it.