I've been learning Javascript & VUE for over 3 years. In this time, i've learned a tonne, but wouldn't consider myself an experienced developer. I work a day job, but spend most nights learning and chipping away at my application, building a saas product only to cure my pain point.
At 40 years old, its getting hard. I recently decided to drop a huge feature set just to launch earlier. All this time I was thinking my app would need to be close to 100% before launch, but time is ticking and the rate i'm going at, it will be another year before i can squeeze out all the bugs.
My wife sat me down today (which prompted me to write this, something I would've never considered doing, because i am not that guy) and had a conversation, reminding me of missing family time for my hobby project.
My family is getting anxious, and so am I. They have been supportive over the last 3 years , but countless nights hammering away in the dark on my laptop
may amount to nothing, scared that it will all end up in failure, I remain optimistic, while procrastination helps the anxiety.
any words of encouragement will help or am i beating a dead horse.
Starting a business at 40 isn't a disadvantage. In many ways, it's an advantage because experience, patience, and self-awareness often lead to better decisions than simply moving fast.
Feeling anxious before taking a big step is completely understandable. The key is not waiting for anxiety to disappear, but learning to move forward with it in manageable steps. Progress usually builds confidence more effectively than endless preparation.
Focus on validating the problem, talking to potential users, and shipping something simple. Every founder's timeline is different, and there's no age limit on building something meaningful. Wishing you the very best on your journey.
Do NOT build. Just do NOT do that. Reach out to people who you think are you potential customers. Start talking. Start with LinkedIn, Reddit, Twitter, IH, PH, anything else but thinking "Oh I know JS and Vue". They mean exactly nothing to the customer.
I am turning 37 but I am single after a breakup and been traveling. I have some savings to get by. I put in some weeks to get to something I can show around and now I am focused on talking.
For context, I am a senior (team lead) engineer, worked through 10+ startups across 3 continents, for 14 years. Python, PHP, JavaScript, (learning Rust, from a C background). Linux for 16 years. EUR 100K annual salary range, and I can get that sitting in India. Tech is what I can do in my sleep, so I need to not get invested in it - customer does not care.
hi brainless, thanks your 2 cents.
i did some basic research before building, it started off as a initial pain point in my industry so it did stem from somewhere, however i agree with you and thanks for your feedback.
@Rishi_Uttam I think what parent says is, you can validate the MVP without even building the product if especially what your product sells is just 'data'; you can directly validate with people who need that data.
Steve Blank has written a nice piece on that - https://steveblank.com/2013/07/22/an-mvp-is-not-a-cheaper-product-its-about-smart-learning/.
Then again, this is not possible with all types of product i.e. non-data; if that is the case with your product then I would suggest releasing the product when it at-least solves the fundamental problem which your customers would use the product for, without any bells and whistles.
Thanks Abishek.
Please listen to their advice and do not build more until you hit on a problem your potential customers pre-pay you to solve.
Done.
They must actually pay you not say they will.
Don't give up! I'm 39 with a family and just launching my first app as well. It's tough to find time with family & work. You have to push yourself as hard as you can (when the kids are sleeping) to get it done.
Just ship your MVP as soon as you can, see how people react, gather feedback and make less time consuming, incremental improvements afterwards.
If it becomes too hard, maybe you need to outsource part or find a partner (better to do once you launch an MVP and know what you're dealing with)...
From what you've written it seems like you are on a journey to become "Javascript & Vue developer" instead of SaaS. Just focusing on developing features will not get you anywhere. You will need to start talking to potential customers & understand do they really need all the features on your roadmap which would require a year to build or you can just deliver a couple of features to get them to start paying you. Usually what we think customers need is vastly different than what they actually need.
Also, try to get yourself a mentor (Who has a good understanding of SaaS) to guide you along the way. It will help you tremendously. Trying to do everything on your own is mentally challenging & could hurt you instead.
Good luck!
Hi Bilal, thanks so much. I did pick up makebook.io from the creator of several startup saas projects. He had some good insights, but as what often happens is that i procrastinated a lot and instead of launching, and just continued to build and build and build and still no launch! thanks for the rest of your feedback, i do agree that often customers dont need the "advanced" features we think they will. cheers.
I have been writing code for 23 years now (started at age 14) and what I have found is that programming is not what you DO it is who you ARE.
Because the desire to code runs so deep, it is not surprising that you are spending so much time on it until the wife is concerned.
I don't think it's a good idea to separate yourself from your passion for the sake of anything else, because then you will just end up miserable and your wife/kids don't want that. See if you can weave your family and your passion into one thing. It doesn't have to be "code or family"...it could be "code AND family".
For example, you could try a Family Demo day where you show off what you've been working on to your wife and kids. Do a pop quiz about "what daddy is working on", have lots of candy and popcorn and treats. Make it fun and an exercise in "supporting each other's passions". Be creative!
And as far as your product goes, YOU CAN DO THIS: don't be afraid to fail, just fail quickly then do better until you RULE THE WORLD 💪
I was in very similar position. It took me over 7 years to make a profit. But it was almost 20 years ago. Now I'm 47. I made 7 figures in revenue with my business but family missed me. Then you start to think if it was worth it. And I'm really not sure. Try to balance as much as possible and build as fast as possible. Definitely MVP or even without.
Validate your idea first. You can even build a fake page that actually doesn't work as a project but validates the idea if users are interested or not.
Never! Never! learn to program on stupid examples. Try to build something valuable from the start. Even a little side project is a good option. You learn and build at the same time. You don't waste time.
And try to put your family in the first place. They need you and care about you more than any customer out there. This is probably the most important thing in this life.
Can you clarify whats the goal for you. Build a business vs learn to code? 3 years is way too much for just starting a business. You need much shorter iterations: build mvp etc. if this is career change to programming then a paid bootcamp/university course would be much more efficient (we have onLy so many years). Anyway you’d better find more efficient way to do it
Initially it was learning to code while building a passion project, i couldn't stand doing to do apps over again, so i ignored all the tutorial projects and did my own at the same time as learning. So i can say i did hit one goal which was to learn and solve bugs myself vs outsourcing them.. now hoping to launch soon.
I see. Looks like a lifestyle project. No business goals hence anything you achieve is a success by definition. If that is not the case you can try to set specific goals that you want to get.
i guess i already have some success as now i am self proclaim as a full stack developer.. but my goal is to build a app that people use, and monetize it.. i posted my project in IH, hope to launch end of June. Thanks for your feedback.
Hi @Rishi_Uttam
I'm in a similar position, agewise and careerwise and I feel your pain. One thing that has helped me out is to find a mentor - someone you can speak to on a regular basis, once a month say, to whom you can show your product and progress and get brutally honest feedback from.
Find someone who is in the business, who can validate and invalidate your decisions before you build a feature. They may be able to identify areas of your service you can postponse (the best software is software you don't have to write!) until later. They may have connections they can share.
Take 20 minutes with them to set goals and make sure you complete them by the time you next meet.
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On another tack: have you started marketing? I checked your profile and I see no link to your product so I'm guess no. If you start promoting your product with a landing page, and start building an audience, you may find your motivation. Plus traction and feedback will give justification for your wife!
sorry for the late reply, thank you, Ive launched, and have a number of active users, some are paid too! still early days..
I'd normally say stick to it, but make sure you stay healthy and sane at the same time - spend some time with your family, for them and you! And launching with less features isn't the worst thing in the world - in fact try and launch the very smallest version of your product possible - as Reid Hoffman used to say “If you’re not embarrassed by the first version of your product, you’ve launched too late.” :) and it's worth noting that making progress (which is easier with a smaller scope) also helps your motivation (which, along with energy may come and go in cycles, so you want to be able to weather those times you're feeling it's all a bit hard).
Thanks for the feedback, and great quote.
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