When I launched my idea — a simple SaaS for status pages — someone commented:
“You're building the same thing that already exists. Where’s the uniqueness?”
And honestly? That’s exactly why I decided to build it.
The market already exists. Paying customers already exist.
I’m not wasting time validating the idea — that part is already done by the competition.
What I’m validating is: Can I sell it? Can I make money from it?
That’s what really matters.
There was a time when you could “build → launch → get traffic.”
That doesn’t work anymore. There's no more free organic traffic — not on mobile stores, not on the web.
Now, product-first is a trap.
You might build something nice and… crickets.
Instead:
Before writing a single line of code, I:
Built a landing page explaining what the idea is, and who it's for
Defined pricing (based on competitors and positioning)
Started driving traffic
Measured how many leads I could get
Learned if I could "sell" the idea, even without a working product
That’s the real funnel: find traffic → qualify leads → convert → check economics.
Not “does the idea have demand?”
It does — others are making money with it.
I’m testing:
Can I attract and convert leads in this market?
Can I acquire users profitably?
Can I turn this into a sustainable business?
That’s the difference between a side project and an actual SaaS business.
In a big enough market, there's room for dozens of products.
Coding is easy now. What’s hard is getting attention and converting it into revenue.
Distribution > innovation
Marketing > features
If you can build a profitable funnel — traffic, conversions, retention — you win.
That’s what I’m focused on. The product is secondary — for now.
This is a great perspective and something I wholeheartedly agree with. Too many founders get stuck building in a vacuum, convinced that their "unique" product is the key. Validating the market and your marketing funnel first feels counter-intuitive but is often the most efficient path to finding product-market fit (or realizing there isn't one before you waste years building).
Thanks for sharing your experience, Charlie! It's a powerful reminder that execution and distribution often trump pure innovation in today's crowded landscape.
Thanks for the comment! Glad you agree — it’s easy to get stuck in the idea of a “unique” product, but validating the market first really saves time. Appreciate you sharing your thoughts!
also marketing is such a key skill for anyone. Either hire someone who knows their stuff or dont
it feels like the more you understand about marketing, the harder it gets.
Totally agree — marketing is the key skill for modern indie founders. I come from a dev background too, and it took me way too long to realize just how much it matters. You can build a great product, but without knowing how to get it in front of people, it’ll just sit there. The more I learn about marketing, the more I respect how deep and complex it really is. Definitely not something you can “just figure out later.”
This is exactly what I am doing as well. I made marketing starter kit to help founders figure out their marketing for their product and I recently made a waitlist to test the demand for the product without putting it out.
Hey! I do outreach from SaaS all the time, if done intentional, leads can be converted no problem. As long as your idea is good of course! :)
That's awesome, glad to hear it's working for you! I’ll definitely try outreach later too — right now I’m focused on testing inbound first.
Building in public has been a game-changer for us — it’s helped validate ideas early, build trust, and attract our first users organically. Transparency resonates well, especially in SaaS.
Absolutely — building in public can work really well, especially when your target audience is developers or indie founders who hang out on the same platforms. But if your product is for a different kind of user, it might not convert to sales directly. In that case, it’s still worth doing to grow an audience for future launches. Having people who follow your work makes every launch easier — even if just a small percentage turn into users, it compounds over time.
Taking this advice though we built the beta already. I did validate with competitor presence. This is a great post and the advice is easy to take and implement. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks! Good luck with the beta — what's the product about?
Hey Charlie — I’ve got a SaaS idea in a proven market with existing paying customers, but with a fresh angle.
Before building the MVP, would you recommend running ads to a landing page to test conversions — or just letting organic traffic trickle in while I build quietly?
Curious how you’d play it based on your own approach.
For me, I wouldn’t build the product first. The key is to find clients who are willing to pay. I’d aim to get at least 10 paying customers before moving forward with development. There are different ways to go about it — a landing page is just one way to get the message out, but you can also do outreach, calls, or even create a presentation. It depends on the niche and your starting point.
If it were me, I’d probably start with a landing page that clearly shows what the product is about (which is necessary anyway). From there, I’d use lead forms or outreach to gather leads and sell to them. Once I had at least 10 people who were ready to pay, that’s when I’d focus on building the product.
Love this mindset. It’s refreshing to see someone openly challenge the “build first” mentality and put marketing and validation at the center. Choosing a proven market and focusing on whether you can sell is such a practical, grounded approach — especially valuable for indie makers who can’t afford to waste time building in a vacuum.
Really appreciate how you broke down the real funnel — it's a great reminder that execution and distribution often matter more than originality.
Thanks for sharing such a focused, no-fluff perspective!
Thanks! Glad you liked the approach. Execution and distribution really are the key. Appreciate the feedback!
I agree on building out the landing page first. I'm focusing on X to get my first users for my product. This helps me build out a dedicated user base who I know will convert to more paying customers.
Exactly, So what are you planning to bring further?
For now, I'm trying to onboard first few users to polish the product. :)
Building a landing page first, does it also include waitlist page that explains what the app does?
It might depend on the type of business and what you are selling
Okay. Thanks
Yes, in my case, the landing page includes a registration button as if the product is already available, followed by a form to request a trial. I mention that a checkout with a card is required and that I'll send a link to start the trial via email. I also make it clear that no charges will be made before the trial ends.
This is important because it helps attract leads who aren’t scared off by having to enter card details — I’m confirming upfront that they’re ready to pay. Otherwise, you could end up with hundreds of leads who aren't actually willing to pay and just wanted to "check it out."
Thank you. So today I had to find some groups of Insurance adjusters and agents on Facebook, joined those groups. Dropped a post asking for pains associated with claim drafts. haven't posted my link yet. Trying to build relationship before I post it.
How is the product moving, close to launch?
Hey, really interesting post 👌 I think you nailed a big part of the truth:
✅ When you're entering an existing market, you don’t waste time validating demand — it’s already proven to sell.
✅ And yeah, these days, distribution is often harder than building (no-code, AI, etc. have made development ridiculously fast).
But I’d gently push back on one thing:
➡️ If you bring zero differentiation, you end up fighting on price or visibility. That’s a dangerous game unless you’ve got serious firepower.
Even in a proven market, people need a reason to choose you over the existing players. Better UX, clearer positioning, niche targeting... something that makes you stand out enough.
In short:
👉 100% agree: testing marketing before building is smart — especially when you're cloning an existing model.
⚠️ But “uniqueness” doesn’t have to mean a brand new concept. It can be subtle but crucial: better experience, different audience, or a twist that really matters long-term.
That’s often the key difference between short-term cash grabs… and a sustainable SaaS.
Just my 2 cents 🙌 Curious to see where your project goes next!
agreed, i would articulate it as people don't want new, they want a different flavor.
New = Unknown
most people fear the unknown
A different flavor is familiar, but a nice change of pace.
I agree with you on the uniqueness point. A lot of people try to solve unique problems, which often leads to solving problems that don’t really exist. But uniqueness doesn’t always have to be about the product itself — it can be in your marketing (selling on Instagram when everyone else is focused on SEO), design, or even something subtle that makes you stand out.
A good example would be bottled water — the market is huge, there are thousands of producers, and the product is essentially the same: drinking water. Yet, these businesses thrive because their uniqueness lies in the bottle design, the taste (everyone has their own audience), where it’s sold, and even the exclusivity of it in certain stores. It’s still just water, solving the same problem, but there’s always a way to create differentiation.
So, I totally agree — marketing and positioning can create a unique angle that matters, even in a crowded space.
This same strategy did not work so much for me.
When you bootstrap alone then it can kill momentum.
Use the same strategy again and act swiftly.
There is no One fit Strategy for all buddy, It changes as per product and market..
I think it’s less about being solo or not — if you can’t sell your product, then there’s no point in building it. Otherwise, what’s the purpose? I can understand that some people might feel more comfortable selling a ready product, but if it doesn’t work out, you’ve just wasted time. I’ve been down the road of building the product first, and then struggling for a long time to make my first sales. I got lucky in the end, but it could’ve gone the other way.
I see your point. However, from my experience it was too much marketing research / hypothesis testing at some point that turned us away from product and technology. Might be the point of balance that can be different for someone in various points of time. Now I a bit tired of marketing and sales and want solely focus on the product / technology as it much more fun now. In the worst case I would have some cool tool I could use... If it grows then I would be very happy but not sad if not. But I do get that at some point attitude can change.
may be unlucky experience... keep going friend.
I totally agree mate. Respect to you 💯
Thanks! Appreciate it 💯
Can you expand on what you did to "start driving traffic"?
Right now, I’m testing my first channel — Google Ads. I’ve actually written a post about it here: Why I'm Testing Paid Ads Before Building My SaaS Product.
The ads are still in the learning phase, so I’ll share the results once I have more data. If this channel doesn’t work out, I’ll move on to others, like cold outreach or getting listed in classified directories.
In today's world, distribution is king.
I want to learn building distribution. I have started to post on LinkedIn and X. Have some 50 foll on X and 8K foll on Li.
How would you do it if you were in my position?
I’ve just started using X myself, so the results are still limited and I’m not an expert in this area either. But I’m giving it a try. Once I gather more experience and insights, I might share what I’ve learned.
So, what is the result of your tests? Can you share the conversion rate and other metrics?
Also, disagree about uniqueness. By uniqueness, I don't mean real uniqueness, but serving a specific niche, or having better and/or different features. If you just copy from all, existing, well-established products, they could only win if your pricing is lower. Else, people will always ask: why should we buy from your brand-new product, if there are established, reliable apps like X and Y, why are you better?
I would like to know about the results too.
i third this comment. or at least a case study of someone else that this worked for.
The ad campaign is still in the learning phase. It looks like the search ads need a lot more time to optimize, while the social media ads learned in about a day. The search campaign has been in the learning phase for a few days now, so we're still waiting on results.
On the organic side, I've gotten about 200 visits from content on IndieHackers and X, and so far there are 4 leads. One of those has an invalid email, and 3 others haven't responded yet.
To draw any meaningful conclusions, I need to fill the funnel with at least 100 leads. Based on my experience, about 10% of them should convert to sales, so anything less than that means the data isn't complete yet.
Once the ad campaigns start showing results, I’ll write a post sharing the insights and the next steps.
>> Based on my experience, about 10% of them should convert to sales, so anything less than that means the data isn't complete yet.
Honestly, this is very optimistic, and may be far from the real numbers. But thanks for your reply, and please, keep us posted as your approach is interesting (although I don't believe in it but maybe your results will show the opposite!)
Of course, if you’re focused on a niche and differentiate yourself from others — that's great. But even that’s not always necessary. In large markets, there’s often room for multiple similar products. It's a misconception that all users know every product on the market and compare them. Some people might discover your product first and buy it without ever having compared it to others.
So, standing out doesn't always require a completely unique product. Even identical products can be sold and promoted differently, and that in itself can be a form of uniqueness. For example, you could market in a different way, use different channels, or target a different audience, which can make your offering stand out, even if the core product is the same.
Fully agree. The hard part isn’t building anymore, it’s proving you can consistently attract and convert users.
Demand already exists in most markets. The real validation is whether you can sell into it.
What you've shared is inspirational. i was thinking to marketing first then product, you've give that feeling I'm totally not alone.
what do you think about organic and paid ads differences? Did you apply any SEO to your landing page? Does your results includes that as well?
Really good project, how are you competing with free tools like Uptime Kuma?
Sounds reasonable. Did you manage to get any (potential?) customers eventually?
Yes, I’ve got some organic traffic from X and Indie Hackers. So far, I’ve had 4 leads from there — one with an invalid email and three that didn’t respond. The ad campaign is still learning, so no leads from that yet, but I’ll share results once I start seeing them.
To really make conclusions, I need at least 100 leads in the funnel. From my experience, the conversion rate from lead to sale is around 10%, so it’s still too early to draw any conclusions. There have been very few leads, and I haven’t had contact with anyone yet.