Hey Everybody,
I am the Founder of Prowess (https://www.showprowess.com) - an upskilling and hiring platform for PMs.
We have paid customers and showing steady growth but not yet at a stage where I can pay myself a good salary to cover all my expenses.
I am working on this full-time and was wondering what kind of part-time gigs have you taken to keep it going without loosing too much time.
For instance, I am considering consulting gigs, contract roles, or part-time work. What have other founders done that has worked well?
Traditional part-time jobs in tech are hard to come by. Especially in the US.
I think your best bet is taking up freelance/contract work for ~2 days a week. I assume you're a software dev. In which case this should be doable - if you have a solid track record and relevant skills.
You can use your personal network (Twitter, LinkedIn) to find this gig. Toptal or other freelance platforms might also work out, but I'm not too familiar with it.
Most companies will be looking for contractors that work 4-5 days a week. Make it very clear how many days/hours per week you want to work. This helps you weed out companies that are not interested in this arrangement.
Please let us know how it goes. There are many indie hackers looking to go down the route of well-paid part-time work.
I have had trouble finding companies that are open to freelancers working part time. I'm not good at marketing myself so that could easily be the issue I experience. I've had more success taking existing clients where I started working 5 days a week and transitioning to fewer days once they understand what I deliver.
That's another good tactic. The problem is that you have to put in a lot of time first until you can reduce hours. After how many months did you request to go part-time?
Around 3 to 4 months. I imagine if you're good at sales you could do it faster. I'm not good at sales or marketing.
Thank you. Will share more information when I figure this out :)
I started taking freelancing projects ($9K/mo) a few months ago. It has been much less stressful being able to cover my expenses.
I resisted side gigs for 3 years and burned through a lot of my savings. I thought side gigs would drain my energy, especially for client-facing work. So before I started I built an async project management tool to minimize client interactions.
A few months in, I would say I am more productive. While I don't get as much time to work on my startup, I spend less time stressing about it too.
Thanks Ed. I am in a similar boat and need to bring in some money to lower the stress.
I have a follow up - how did you find consulting gigs?
Free templates and referrals.
I was lucky because I previously built a lot of app templates for my last MVP. From time to time potential clients would reach out.
I don't want to spend a lot of time getting clients and I just need to make enough to cover my expenses - I undercharge so I can convert clients quickly (1-3 days).
I came across Prowess a few months back and ever since have been referring folks from our community to check it. Great work Himanshu.
We created http://fueler.io/ - a portfolio tool for PMs to help showcase their work. It's an initiative to help folks showcase their skills through their proof of work instead of degrees and certificates. I believe that's how we can build a skill-driven society.
I would love your feedback on Fueler. Some PM profiles on Fueler - https://fueler.io/finallyaditya/, https://fueler.io/finallyaditya/
Even we are bootstrapping our startup, Fueler. I have been taking up consulting gigs, freelance projects to sustain our cash flow and survive. The journey is hard for sure but not impossible.
Thanks for the question, Himanshu.
We should talk more :) I will email you.
Yep! I do some software consulting on the side.
Besides just getting some extra income, I find it genuinely fun to do. I like helping others solve their technical problems.
It's very doable - but it helps to have a "war chest" (i.e. savings allotted for getting by) for those situations where you need to pause doing the consulting temporarily, in order to shift focus back to your SaaS full time.
Some clients can be demanding and may want more of your time than you can offer. Be very up front with them about your time constraints before signing anything.
Most clients will be willing to work with you, especially if you do quality work. But some will be difficult to work with, and being up front about your time constraints will weed those ones out quickly.
Thanks for sharing the norms of consulting.
How do you find consulting gigs?
If you want to quickly dip your toes in it there's obviously platforms available to help you to do that, at the expense of racing to the bottom with your pricing that is :) But platforms like Upwork can be a good place to get a start.
The best long term way to build clientele is to build your network. Find other consultants that you aren't competing with that may have clients who need your services. E.g. if you're a WordPress/Webflow consultant, cozy up with a graphic designer. Offer them a commission for referrals.
Of course, not every consultant is willing to just refer anyone: so build up your portfolio of existing work to show that you're capable of delivering quality to their clients.
Also: niche down. Don't consult on my example (WordPress/Webflow) as it's pretty overcrowded. Your niche can be everything from the tech you specialize in, to the sorts of businesses that you are interested in consulting for (e.g. maybe you specialize in dentistry software or something).
The best short term way to get new clients is cold email. Find important stakeholders at a company, reach out to them and seek to learn more about their overall business. Try to get them on a quick 10-15 minute Zoom call. Focus on learning their workflows/process and see if there may be an area where you can fill a gap. Focus on listening. If they have a particularly painful process, try to figure out how much it costs them annually.
Determine if you would be able to help them bridge any gaps for less than the annual cost of this particularly painful process, and you have a very realistic chance of closing that client on the spot.
One of my best clients came from a random cold email I made when I was first starting out. I still work with them to this day, and they also refer new clients to me. I haven't had to cold email since.
Yes, consulting.
Justin Welsh did a nice thread on documenting how this can look. He continues to do consulting despite having an extremely strong bootstrapped product offering.
We, at Zeroqode.com, had some experience to hire web designers and Bubble developers. Sometimes it was a nice collab, sometimes no.
We bootstrapped in an absolutely new niche - No-Code web development. Here is our story of Bootstrapping by the end of 2018 - https://zeroqode.com/article/how-we-bootstrapped-our-no-code-web-development-startup-to-a-team-of-20-in-2-years/ .
Now, in 2022, we have 60+ people on the team.
I believe you can find in the article interesting info and our findings that will help you.
Hey Hsing, at Leadix we are in the same situation.
What we are doing (and it is working well so far) are consulting missions but with a SaaS kind of pricing instead of the old pay-per-hour model. We ask between 2000 and 4000€ per month for prospecting missions. This means that with 4+ clients, my co-founder and I can pay ourselves a decent salary while still having more than 60% of our time available to build our prospecting SaaS product 😊 If you are curious here it is: https://bit.ly/3c1qgZZ
I've always relied on Upwork and freelance clients that pay well so that I can focus on putting that money into my SaaS products (servers, marketing, etc).
That's the only way that is helping me push boundaries and invest in the things I truly love and believe in.
I went full-time on indie hacking over a year ago and after 8 months decided to work part-time in a contract role. I am the only developer at the company I joined so that gives me 100% flexibility in terms of when I want to work on that project vs my own business.
Prior to taking that role I tried the following routes:
I did a longer write-up here: https://www.indiehackers.com/post/why-i-started-working-part-time-after-8-months-of-full-time-indie-hacking-d02afe5b80
Thanks for sharing! This is very helpful. Context switching would be a killer.
A good FTE job where you can do well, and have some time to do your thing would be ideal.
I'm working full time on Squeaky now, but in the past I liked to take permanent roles, but would negotiate 80 or 90% time i.e. working 4 or 4.5 days per week, allowing additional time for my side projects.
The benefits of this were mainly that you have job security and a predictable income, but also if you're filling the gaps with freelance work you're likely to have to spending time chasing the next role/gig, familiarising yourself with new companies and projects etc. For me that's too much of a cognitive drain and makes it really hard for me to focus on my own projects.
I guess it also depends which country you're in, in the Netherlands it's relatively common to negotiate slightly reduced working hours which helps a lot.
Thanks a lot. This is the dream scenario. Get a job that has reasonable hours. Work on the side on the business.
If you stay in the job, it gets easier as you have more context. I am in the US but have never tried to negotiate less hours. Not sure if that is possible. I guess I will find out soon.
I'm just starting my journey, so I'm doing freelance product marketing while I build to community/product.
Hey Taylor, interesting product offering - PMF is such a challenge for startups. I'd love to connect and tell you more about what I am working on.
How are you finding gigs? I have registered on Toptal, and Upwork, and also reaching out to my own network.
Is Toptal not sending you matches for your skill set?
I work on contracts to pay the bills. It can be great to decrease the pressure a bit, but sometimes I feel like I should work more on my own projects.
The process of getting contracts, and doing the work required can be time- and energy consuming. But at least I don't have to worry about running out of runway
That was my thinking when I jumped all in. It took my a while to build my product and now my biggest problem is to solve the chicken and egg problem (it is a platform).
2 years without a paycheck has been hard and pressure has reached a point where I need to bring in some money.
I will definitely move slower now but as most of the work is towards GTM, I can plan client calls, cold outreach and even SEO in a more flexible manner.
If I was building a product, it is would be harder with part-time because the maker schedule requires long stretches of time to be productive.
Good question, actually I save money for half-year of bootstrapping. But it turned out it wasn't enough :)
So now I'm looking for part-time job or freelance to pay bills and marketing
Welcome to the club :)
Yes, I have taken side gigs to pay the bills. I think it's a great way to make extra money and it doesn't interfere with my work as a bootstrapper. It takes some of the pressure off, and that headspace has helped me build a better product!
Thanks for sharing. How did you find gigs? Did the freelancing platforms work for you?
Usually through personal connections, spending time to promote yourself on platforms can be tough
That's what I thought. So many folks on these platform, it is easy to get lost. Thank you.