Alex Heiden's first-ever business, Closify, was a slam dunk, leading to an acquisition. After the exit, he started two more profitable businesses, became an influencer, and got acqui-hired.
Here's Alex on how he did it. đ
I started my career in remote sales before building Closify, a hiring platform that focuses solely on hiring commission-only sales reps.
I started Closify in January of 2021 and went on to make over $1M in revenue, with $125k being our biggest month back in May of 2022. I exited the majority of the company in March of 2023 for an amount that I cannot share.
After Closify, I grew from 0 to 100,000 followers on Instagram in 95 days (nocode.alex) and ran a no-code development agency that made $30-100k per month from June of 2023 up until August of 2024.
Then, in Q4 of 2024, I began working on Payd, which launched in February of 2025 and reached a 6-figure run rate by March. I was then acqui-hired by Whop, where I now work.
I am looking into building my next project on the side, but I haven't landed on anything yet.
I got into entrepreneurship because I wanted to avoid the traditional route. I didn't want to follow the path of my dad and brother, so I was simply looking to get out of that.
I started Payd because it solved two problems that I faced on both sides of the equation. From the business-owner side, hiring creators and influencers â they always ask for too much money up front. On the creator side, it's hard to find good businesses worth promoting.
So, I built Payd, which allowed businesses to set a campaign budget, set a CPM (how much they'll pay per 1,000 views), and post guidelines. Then, creators connected their social accounts to Payd and began posting.
I was passionate about this because I was helping everyday people make side income. I got to leverage my network, brand, and years of expertise to help others make money, and that was a cool feeling.
Only build in markets where you're early and you have an edge. With both Closify and Payd, I was extremely early, and so I was able to become "the go-to" solution very quickly.
To do that, I looked at the existing solutions for Closify. It was really all sales recruiters, which were slow, expensive, and inefficient. Then, I mapped out the inefficiencies and realized I could be the first to solve them.
With Payd, I saw what TikTok Shop did to e-commerce when it came out. E-commerce changed overnight. Why would you not focus on a channel that pays on results? I knew something similar needed to exist for SaaS companies, apps, and personal brands, but no one had built it.
When I was first getting started on Closify, I didn't have much money. I was still in college, so I scraped together the MVP using Airtable for the backend, Stacker for the frontend, Memberstack + Stripe for memberships and payments, and Zapier to tie everything together. The next iteration was built on Webflow with a custom CMS before I scraped together $6,000 to hire a Bubble dev to build it on Bubble, which we stayed on the entire time â Closify still runs on Bubble to this day.
But for Payd I paid a development team up front to build it, as I had capital from prior years in business.
These days, I vibe code fun side projects using createanything.com. Sometimes, I'll have my partner build stuff, as he is self-taught with Cursor.
For Closify, we started by charging $5k/yr, and we grew by expanding our sales team aggressively. Eventually, we switched to a $1k - $2k per hire fee so the pricing would scale with the size of the business we were selling to.
For Payd, we charged $500/mo + a 20% take rate on the brand's budget, so if they spent $2k, we made $500/mo + $400.
I grew Closify with SEO. If you search "hire commission only sales reps," we're still the #2 organic result. To this day, we still get 3,000 clicks a month from Google on autopilot. Beyond that, we had a sales team of 5 SDRs doing cold email, LinkedIn outbound, and cold calling, plus 2-3 closers and a sales manager.
For LInkedIn outbound, we'd all have a Closify banner and our headline would say, "We've staffed 200+ sales teams in the last 12 months," and then we'd send the max connection request limit each day to agency owners with 11-50 employees. When they accepted, we'd say:
"Hey {name}
insert personalized first line
quick question, is {business name} looking for commission-only sales reps?"
Payd was a combination of tactics. We used TikTok UGC + spark ads to attract creators. And we used my personal brand + direct outreach + referrals to get brands on board.
So, I've grown two businesses in entirely different ways, and what I can confidently say is this: Outbound sales is a superpower everyone should learn. And content and ads are superpowers too.
You have to do it all. That's what differentiates you. Too many people can only do content, but they don't know a thing about setting up a cold email campaign.
It's easy to get complacent and coast for a few months. Your results today are a result of your last 2-3 months of work, sometimes longer, so that wall may not hit you for a bit. But when it does, it'll take you another 3-6 months to get it back.
That happened with Closify. I got too comfortable and it killed momentum.
I forced myself to go back to having a strict daily routine:
Wake up at the same time every day
A minimum of four hours of deep work
Talk to customers
Then go to the gym and spend time with good people
That got me back on track. Honestly, that routine always gets me back on track.
In the process of building Payd, I was coming off of probably the worst 6-9 months of my life. I paid quarterly tax, got a fraudulent chargeback on a dev agency deal, then Stripe held $40k for 6 months, and then I got sued over something incredibly stupid.
It was the first time I experienced true anxiety. I'd fall asleep and get sleep paralysis. I'd wake up with a knot of anxiety in my chest. I had shut down my dev agency, and I knew the only way to pull myself out of this was routine and help from God.
Keep your promises to yourself. Show up EVERY day. Stop hitting snooze. Stop lying to yourself about going to the gym. Stop feeling sorry for yourself. It doesn't need to be a crazy routine. I didn't do ice baths, I didn't wake up at 5 AM. I just stuck to one routine and kept my promises to myself.
Obsess over your customers. Never stop building for your customers. And never build something unless multiple customers request it.
On top of that, as a founder, you're a salesman. Get really good at selling. Sales solve all problems. If you can't go out and sling cold DMs, emails, and cold calls to get customers, you'll be beaten by the founder who can sell like crazy.
I just want to be great in all aspects of life. I want to build cool products that help people. I want to be elite athletically and physically. I want to elevate people around me.
My goals are not revenue goals anymore, but just trying to be the highest version of myself possible.
You can follow along on Instagram, where I share educational videos on how to start a SaaS. I'm also on X and YouTube.
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Hmm, does anyone verify your claims? I just signed up to closify and I can only see 54 sales reps in the whole world available to 'hire' on your platform. Moreover your instagram has been deleted so zero followers there -(I'm using @ tryclosify handle)
How can you be turning over $1m with such low engagement and essentially a dead platform?
Getting acquired twice in two years is a rare but telling sign of value creation. It usually happens when a company builds strong products, achieves fast growth, or owns unique intellectual property that attracts multiple buyers. The first acquisition may be for scaling or market expansion, while the second often comes as part of a larger strategic consolidation. For founders and teams, it highlights resilience, adaptability, and the ability to deliver consistent business impact.
Great story.
Wow, Its an amazing story
It highlights rapid business growth, market interest, and strategic opportunities, but also challenges in adapting, integrating cultures, and planning long-term, as James Fleischmann experienced.
Stacking SEO, outbound, and ads truly compounds; few founders master all three. Your journey proves this edge is real
Wild journey, Alex. From Closifyâs 7-figure year and exit to launching Payd, hitting a six-figure run rate, and then getting acqui-hired by Whop. The through-line felt tight: build where youâre early and have an edge, stack multiple growth levers (SEO + outbound + content/ads), and protect the boring routine that keeps momentum.
Two quick Qs:
⢠When you decided to move on from Closify to Payd, what specific signal told you âitâs time to switch gamesâ?
⢠If you had to start today without a personal brand, which single lever would you bet on first for your next project, SEO, cold outbound, or paid social?
P.S. Iâm with Buzz; we build conversion-focused Webflow sites and pragmatic SEO for product launches. Happy to share a tight 10-point GTM checklist if useful.
Really enjoyed this, Alex. The âbuild where youâre early + get obsessed with salesâ combo is such an underrated through-line.
Iâve felt the same thing in my own projects â you can have the best product in the world, but if you donât know how to sling cold emails, run ads, or create content that actually lands, youâll plateau quick. Stacking all three growth levers is a huge edge.
Curious: when you were starting Payd, how much of the initial traction came from your personal brand vs. cold outbound vs. UGC ads? And if you had to rewind and launch Payd without the 100k audience, what would your very first channel bet have been?
Thanks for sharing such a detailed breakdown â super valuable for those of us still in the trenches.
Loved the breakdown, Alex. One thing Iâm curious about, when you were choosing between staying in Closify vs. moving on to Payd, what was the tipping point that told you it was time to exit and start fresh?
Also, youâve scaled using SEO, outbound, content, and ads. If you had to start from scratch today with no personal brand, which growth lever would you bet on first, and why?
Loved the through-line here: build where youâre early + stack the three levers (outbound, content, ads) + protect the routine. Quick Q on Closify: what was the actual SEO wedge that compounded (one core keyword cluster + a focused landing page + a few high-intent backlinks?), and how did you avoid the post-rank plateau after hitting #2 for âhire commission-only sales repsâ? Also curious about switching from $5k/yr to per-hire
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The resilience story here hits hard - especially the part about sticking to promises to yourself during that rough 6-9 month period. That daily routine framework is gold: wake up consistently, 4 hours deep work, talk to customers, gym, good people. Simple but compound impact.
Your pivot from $5k/yr to per-hire pricing on Closify is interesting - that kind of model alignment (you succeed when they succeed) probably made sales conversations much easier. Also love the 'build where you're early + have an edge' principle. Question: when you're evaluating new markets now, what specific signals tell you you're early enough to become 'the go-to' solution?
Loved the through-line here: build where youâre early + stack the three levers (outbound, content, ads) + protect the routine. Quick Q on Closify: what was the actual SEO wedge that compounded (one core keyword cluster + a focused landing page + a few high-intent backlinks?), and how did you avoid the post-rank plateau after hitting #2 for âhire commission-only sales repsâ? Also curious about switching from $5k/yr to per-hireâwas that mostly objection-handling, or did it unlock bigger ACVs with larger teams?
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It so inspring
This was a great read! Thank you for sharing!
it was so inspiring . did you automate sending cold emails & dms?
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Incredible journey đ The way you combined scrappy no-code MVPs with later reinvesting into full builds shows how resourcefulness evolves with each chapter.
I especially liked your point on learning all three growth levers â outbound, content, and ads. Most people double down on one and ignore the others, but youâve proven that stacking them creates real leverage.
Excited to see what you build next. With your track record, whatever it is will probably be âthe go-toâ in that space before anyone else catches on.