Hi Indie Hackers, my name is Jakub from Entrepreneur List. Here is new interview with Dylan, founder of Growth Currency. Newsletter that generated him over $10K as a side hustle.
Dylan shares his 5 lessons that he learned from growing the newsletter to 100 straight weekly editions, 3K subscribers and $10K in revenue:
I started publishing my Growth Currency newsletter 2 years ago this month. Since then, I've published over 100 straight weekly editions, grown my newsletter to nearly 3k subscribers, and earned over $10k via ads, affiliates, and services.
Here are 5 counter-intuitive lessons I've learned growing & monetizing my newsletter over 2 years:
Lesson #1: Consistency is important. But being resilient is critical
Being consistent was huge for me. And it wasn’t "hard" publishing a brief, weekly newsletter. What was hard was the slow growth at the beginning. Knowing that I needed to keep a long-term mindset for any chance of newsletter success. That’s why resilience to battle slow growth and feelings of “publishing into the void” is critical — otherwise, you'll give up. Keep publishing consistently, yes, but build a resilient long-term mindset.
Lesson #2: A website helps. But you don’t need one
I used Substack as my landing page + newsletter + blog site for 9 months. I grew nearly 1,000 subscribers with it. No purchasing domains or web hosting, or setting up some headache-of-a-WordPress site. I didn’t get distracted with the unnecessary and grew my list instead. Now I have a website. But it would have been a waste of time—and major distraction—at the start.
Lesson #3: Growth is not linear—but it is correlated
Subscriber growth is not linear. There are boom days, weeks, even months when that graph keeps going up and to the left. Then there are periods where getting 10 new subscribers feels like years. And it’s often due to a lack of promotion. Promotion is powerful & effective. Growth is highly correlated with how much you promote yourself. And it’s critical until you can get the promotional flywheel spinning.
Lesson #4: Switching platforms is scary until it isn’t
I began with Substack. Then switched to ConvertKit 9 months later. I was terrified to switch, even though I knew it was in my best interest. But in reality, it wasn't a big deal. I reached out to the ConvertKit team who looked at my account & email list. They reassured me it was going to be fine. And it was. More than fine. I increased my open rate by ~15% on my first send.
Lesson #5: Think about monetization from Day 1
I didn’t consider monetization much at the beginning. Like, I knew about affiliate sales. But I never considered newsletter ads & sponsors! Ultimately, your newsletter’s goal is to drive revenue—either directly or indirectly. And it’s SO much easier to actually make money with it when you’ve been strategic from the start.
Interview on Entrepreneur List
Great post informative points! Just few questions:
Thanks!
Great questions! Here are my answers:
→ I got my first 100 subscribers in 100 days from posting and sharing on Twitter. That was the only platform I was using for growth at the time.
→ See answer above, plus -- I grew with cross-promotions, advertised in other newsletters (ex. Josh Spector's newsletter), and went on a few podcasts as well to leverage other people's audiences.
→ Again, mostly all through Twitter. But I also share often on Medium.com, post in various communities (incl. IndieHackers), and have started promoting on LinkedIn. You can also leverage Substack or beehiiv's network effects, though I'm not doing much of that personally.
Hey Dylan ( @growthcurrency ), can you comment? :)
Thank you so much for the feature, @jacobp 🙏
For sure! Thanks for sharing your lessons. 👍🏼
Such great pieces of learned experiences here. Thanks for sharing!
Happy you like it!
Great post - concise and to the point on newsletters (you could even apply some of these principles to other areas too). Personally, number 1 says it all - resilience! 💪🏼
Yes, indeed!
Dylan is really one of the best people I've met online. Great interview Jakub!
Yes, true. I appreciate his work very much!
Damn, that's super kind of you Jamie 🙏 Right back at you, my friend!
Thank you very much! That's very inspiring!
Main success point here for every founder:
"That’s why resilience to battle slow growth and feelings of “publishing into the void” is critical — otherwise, you'll give up. Keep publishing consistently, yes, but build a resilient long-term mindset."
hey community please visit my newsletter here- https://legalleader.substack.com
Do you have any advice on how to build resilience, or what specific tricks/tools/resources helped you build resilience for you on the gray and cloudy days when nothing's working or taking off?
Is this a newsletter on how to create and monetize a newsletter?
That also struck me. Feels a bit recursive.
Yes, Dylan writes a newsletter about building and monetizing a newsletter, here.
Interesting. Why did Converkit have a better open rate than Substack?
I don't know why ConvertKit has a better open rate but I have the same experience when I switched from Revue to MailerLite. OR increased ~17% in my case.
It would be very helpful if you could share your most successful growth channels.
Aside from IH, where else do you promote your project?
I promote my project on Product Hunt, Reddit, Hacker News, IH.
I know that Dylan has a good success with promoting on Medium. He shares a content from newsletter also on Medium.
I'm in the same boat right now. I was able to grow my newsletter - https://indie.watch/ - in 6 months to 300, but the slow glow is demotivating. The goal for this year is to get to 1K.
We can do a cross-promotion @aryamansharda. Write me a message on [email protected]
@jacobp I am on this same exact journey right now, and just wanted to say congratulations on reaching 3K subscribers! I know how difficult that is. I just subscribed to your newsletter!
I resonate with every single one of your steps. #1 is so important. In the early days it's easy to get discouraged "publishing into the void." The main thing is keeping your head high.
In case you want to support, I write a personal growth newsletter to 5K subscribers. I would love your feedback: www.brandonturp.com/newsletter
Hey @jacobp
Appreciate the post!
I would love if you could talk more about cross-promotions, advertising in other newsletters to promote grow - is there a database/list of newsletters to choose from? is it just picking them randomly as you find them and reaching out?
Trying to find good places to cross promote my newsletter Brain Juice that Deconstructs Interesting Business Ideas, Emerging Opportunities and Trends.
Great piece. Thanks for telling us about the importance of resilience, especially when growth is slow and getting 10 subscribers seems a great challenge. Lots to learn from your sharing.
Happy you like the post!