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Has anyone used Laravel Wave?

I was looking into Laravel Spark for a side-project I'm working on, mainly to save me from having to build a subscription-based Stripe integration from scratch; and then I found this project called Wave which is basically the same thing but looks a lot more polished (visually, at

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    I am using Wave on two of my SaaS products.

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      How do you like Wave? Do you think it has any missing features?

      Also, something wasn't really clear to me around pricing. On the website, it says it's $60/year, but is the subscription just to get updates and support, or do you have to keep paying to continue using it?

      Thanks for the help!

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        Just for updates and support. I have not found any features missing. It works out of the box especially payment which can be hard to integrate. The documentation is good https://wave.devdojo.com/docs/1.0 as well. If you need any help let me know.

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      Let me know if you have any questions.

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    I've not used Wave but you're right, it does look visually more polished.

    I must say though, I would never use Wave, it's built on Laravel Voyager admin panel which is one of the worst admin panels i've used. It has (or had.. it may have improved) some security issues, it's clunky to uses and creates lots of unnecessary database tables for the configuration that could easily be file based, something Laravel handles quite well.

    I don't want to speak too bad about Voyager as it may have improved but my experience was a bad one and I would never use it again, this rules out Wave for me.

    I do however use Spark on a production project and I'm about to use it again on a SaaS in development. It's not the nicest visually and it's best if you have a grasp on Vue to allow easy customising (you don't NEED to use Vue, but Spark is based on it, so it makes sense to stick with it).. but I like Spark a lot, it does what it says on the tin... it gets a lot of bad comments but in the end it's just a Laravel and Vue app, and most of the bad comments come from developers that probably didn't know what they were buying.

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      Oh, that's interesting, I'm pretty new to the Laravel world and I haven't done my research on Voyager yet, so this is really helpful; thank you!

      I was also tempted to give Laravel Nova (https://nova.laravel.com/) a try and just bite the bullet and build the Stripe integration myself (using Laravel Cashier probably), but I'm not the most experienced PHP developer, so I'm worried this would end up taking way too much time.

      How happy are you with Spark? Is the Vue UI customizable? (at least the look and feel)

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        Spark isn't perfect, but I'm very happy with it... It does what it says on the tin: gives me subscription boilerplate so that I can spend my development time on the product, not writing subscription logic, auth, crud and dashboards... as long as you're happy with Laravel and Vue you're good to go.

        As for the UI, it's just Bootstrap :)

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      Or SaaS As A Product, either one works :)

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