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How a16z produces their podcast

https://a16z.com/2019/11/26/a16z-podcast-how-what-why-500th-episode-behind-the-scenes
submitted this linkon March 7, 2020
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    I'm a big fan of a16z's podcast. They inspire a lot of what I do with IH. Some of my notes from this episode that might be useful for other podcasters:

    • Five levers of quality audio: content quality, energy, charisma, chemistry, and the arc of narrative flow.
    • They edit heavily to make the above levers better. For example, poor flow but great content? Rearrange the convo to make it flow better. Great chemistry but little substance? Shorten it. Etc.
    • They noticed their growth chart started curving upwards significantly when they began editing.
    • Some shows (e.g. Joe Rogan, Tim Ferriss, Sam Harris) are cult of personality. People just love the host. If you don't have a cult of personality show, you have to make sure it's resourceful. That means maximizing insights per minute.
    • If you want expertise, bring on experts. You're not going to get good stuff out of non experts.
    • Most people drop off in the first 3-5 minutes of a podcast. That's the most important point to make your episodes great.
    • When people don't know the guest, they'll find the guest's personal story boring. Save that for the middle or end of the episode. Put interesting stuff in the beginning.
    • The best stuff is the somewhat unfiltered stuff, so start recording before the guest comes on and don't stop until after they leave.
    • To develop your own signature style, describe yourself in two words. a16z is "innovation brand." Wired was "informed optimism." Xerox PARC was "entrepreneurial scientists." Your guest selection, convo topics, questions, editing, etc. should all flow from this.

    I think a lot of what a16z does is only possible because of their heavy editing, which isn't necessarily the best use of time for a small-time or hobbyist podcaster. But the principles are smart to learn from.

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      Thanks for the summary!

      If we assume they are having an hour long conversation they could be removing up to half of it in the final cut which is pretty aggressive. I wish we could hear the unedited track to get a feel for what they cut.

      I also noticed they have fairly long intros that describe what the episode will be about. Personally, I decide what I want to listen to based on the title and description. However @JeffMeyerson also does these kinds of intros on Software a Engineering Daily so I’m guessing they are effective for listeners.

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      Some shows (e.g. Joe Rogan, Tim Ferriss, Sam Harris) are cult of personality. People just love the host.

      I don't know about that. I'd say all three are pretty polarizing but still draw in those who disagree with them due to their quality. Two of the three are fantastic interviewers [1]. All three have world class guests, many of whom probably wouldn't make time for a16z in its current form.

      I pretty much gave up on a16z in 2017 and now just check when the founders or someone I'm particularly interested in are on.

      [1] the other is sharp but really struggles to ask a question with in less than a 12 clause sentence with 4 qualifiers and interrupting himself in the process

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    This was a great listen and definitely has great tips for Podcaster, however, as a business that provides podcast editing to Podcasters all over, we do think there's a lot that can be improved in terms of how the (a16z) podcast itself sounds.

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      What are your biggest gripes with a16z's editing?

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        Lack of EQ and sound engineering from what we've heard so far. If you were to compare to the IH podcast, you can clearly tell the IH podcast is more polished by how it sounds.

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      Do podcasters, or the platforms that help produce their podcasts, apply techniques like speeding up slow speakers, without changing frequency, or detecting and taking the blackboard-fingernail edge off a guest's vocal fry in an attempt to lessen the drop-off of listeners in the early minutes?

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        It really depends on what you like as a Podcaster and how your audience reacts to things. We experiment with everything, to be honest, but most of the Podcasters we work with prefer we make things sound as good as possible without losing authenticity.

        One of our podcasters actually had a guest who got offended that his segment was sped up 🤷🏻‍♂️

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    In its early days, I loved a16z podcasts, especially the ones with @pmarca. In the past few years though, it's felt like a mostly soulless mass-produced McPodcast.

    Honestly, I get more out of a typical Conversation with Tyler, Lex Fridman or London Reel than I do out of 5-10 a16z podcasts. All of them are live, too!