
This is a perennial dilemma for any founder who finds themselves with a stagnating idea/product:
Move on or keep on trudging?
Problem is you never really know if you're not doing things right, or if you're not doing the right things, or something in between.
It takes acumen (basically a fancy way of saying educated guesswork) to tell the difference.
There are broadly 3 possibilities here:
Verdict: move on
I myself was personally here in 2019, when I tried to sell a payments solution in the healthcare space as an indie hacker. I learned that I just didn't have it in me to be a product engineer and B2B salesman at the same time.
This is why founder-market fit is so important. There are so many profitable software markets out there, but the markets that fit your personality type, passion, resources, skill level, circumstances, etc. as a solo bootstrapped founder are a lot more limited. Some things just aren't yours for the taking.
Verdict: move on
If you haven't tried everything in your power to overturn your present fate, you don't deserve to move on. It's not easy AT ALL to grab a tiger by the tail, and, if you have grabbed one, and it seems to be slipping out of your grasp, it's clearly wiser to grasp tighter than to totally let it go and hunt for another tiger all over again!
For example, I was stuck at $500 MRR for months in mid-2020 for Zlappo, but the thing that finally worked for me that 5x my MRR within the next few months was -- believe it or not -- partnering with a Twitter influencer with 200k followers.
I would have never in a million years guessed that that was the lever of growth that I needed to create an inflection point in my MRR.
You just need to keep throwing spaghetti at the wall (prudently of course, spaghetti is expensive 😅) and see what sticks.
Verdict: keep on trudging
Because of sunk-cost fallacy.
Psychologically, we badly want our past efforts to count for something, otherwise the cognitive dissonance would be too much to bear:
You mean I did all that for nothing!? That makes me the dumbest idiot in the world, doesn't it... If I'm so dumb, how can I be a successful entrepreneur? Oh no, woe is me... I'm going to be a 9-5 wage cuck for life, trapped forever in corporate drudgery...
And the self-doubt goes on and on...
Yes, it was all for nothing, believe it or not.
I find the best thing to do in those situations is to just cope, i.e. instruct your internal PR department to convince yourself that you've "lEaRnEd a LoT" from that experience.
In truth, what you actually learned is simply what wouldn't work.
You still have zero idea of what would work, you just now know, it ain't whatever you've been doing.
Hardly helpful, is it?
Plus you never know, if you switch idea or pivot, you might encounter the exact same problem again.
If you're struggling to have a consistent lead flow or fighting churn now or even getting your first sale now, who's to say you won't have the same problem with your new idea?
Hell, you might introduce new variables and thus new problems that you didn't have with your previous idea.
It's a total black box -- you have no idea how it will turn out if you suddenly switch gears halfway through and go through the whole pain of starting from scratch.
I guess if you're at $0 MRR, you have nothing to lose, but if you're at $5k MRR, $2k MRR, or even $1k MRR, you should definitely err on the side of persevering instead of giving up.
At the risk of stating the obvious, I believe traction should be the key determining factor in deciding whether to move on or keep on trudging.
If you're seeing some traction, keep at it.
If you're seeing little to no traction, abandon it.
I find it helpful to set for yourself a deadline for getting initial traction.
I like to count from launch (not from first line of code), because that's when people start having access to your product and telling you what they really think about it.
And if what you're working on is worth a damn, you're acting upon feedback, and you're constantly promoting it day and night, you shouldn't take more than 3 months to land your first paying customer.
If you can't convince someone to pay within the first 3 months of your existence, I wouldn't be optimistic at all about the next 3 months.
This is why it's key to shorten the loop by not spending too long on your MVP.
If your MVP would take more than a month to build, my honest opinion is: forget about it, find another idea that would allow you to get validation as soon as possible.
Pricing is also key here, though I find it less of a concern with indie hackers.
From my own experience, I was so desperate for my first sale for Zlappo that I felt I underpriced it at $10/mo when I launched, but I've since revised my pricing to more accurately reflect the massive value that I've added since my launch.
I hope this post has been helpful, if you have any feedback or ideas or experiences with this, definitely do share so we can all learn from one another.
Cheerio!
Boom. This post spoke to me as I'm in this exact situation.
I run an app for cross-country skiers. On one hand, It has many flaws:
Yet, of all the things I've built it's by far gained the most traction. That's because it genuinely solves an important problem.
So every year around November, this app explodes in popularity and sucks my attention. Then, come march the ski season is ending and the app dries up.
It's as-if a smoking hot girl likes you, dates you for months, starts making long-term plans with you, then drops you. And this happens every year.
On one hand, I can't shut it down cause it's useful to people and I want to help them. On the other hand, I can't focus on it since it's never going to monetize to a significant income. I feel like this is the classic open source problem.
The solution? I just try to maintain and build new features. But, only if I'm bored. If I have other priorities, they have to come first.
The fact that it' seasonal isn't or shouldn't be a problem. Seasonal business exist in the real world as well.
The ice cream parlor around the corner makes enough in 5-6 months to be able to close for the rest of the year.
In a book I read, there was a business case about this person making more than 100K per year, just around valentine's day by selling candy hearts with customized messages.
If your users won't pay, you could probably monetize through the services around your users (think like Facebook, advertisers, businesses related to cross-country skiing: lodging, equipment, travel, tickets for access, parking, restaurants close to ski locations, parkings). People who like cross-country probably like other outdoor/winter activities. Also, maybe those people also do outdoorsy activities during the summer. Fishing? Hunting? Camping? Mountain bike?
Can you expand to offer services around those (you probably want to send out a survey to your users at the end of the season if you want to look into that)?
I don't know about your app so I can't say, but I'd guess that people are willing to travel to cross-country ski.
Here are a few other questions you could look into to expand the revenue of your app:
Seasonal can provide huge benefits.
The icecream car that passes our street works during the summer (in Belgium), and he spends an entire winter on holiday in Turkey.
LMAO. Funny analogy. I would know the pain haha.
If your app is seasonal, still don't despair, I picture it's very similar to, say, tax reporting software, like TurboTax and Tax Slayer, etc.?
They're doing fine too.
By the way, I had to look up what cross-country skiing is.
I'm an avid skier myself, but the "cross-country" part threw me off.
What does your app do? Maybe it's something you can pivot/expand for other sports.
Maybe skiing in the winter, surfing in the summer?
Just an idea! 😄
Super well written, thank you for sharing. I'm at the micro-traction stage, I made a couple of thousands or dollars of sales, but so far Lifetime plans only.
I'm trying to change my my prices, add a free trial and remove freemium, and launch on a bunch of product discovery websites like appsumo etc. , to name a few.
Just throwing everything at the wall, something is going end up working.
If other Indie Hackers could share their inflection point like yours was the Twitter partnership, I would love to hear it.
And can you tell us a bit about the deal that you struck with the influencer, was he an affiliate with special conditions, or something else?
Don't sell yourself short. That's validation right there.
Nobody is going to fork over their hard-earned money if they didn't believe that what you're offering would improve their lives.
And yes, my partner was an affiliate with special conditions, I created a brand-new affiliate program just for him, signed a legal contract, created a special commission structure, payment terms, etc.
I recounted the story in one of the comments below about how it happened.
"If you haven't tried everything in your power to overturn your present fate, you don't deserve to move on. It's not easy AT ALL to grab a tiger by the tail, and, if you have grabbed one, and it seems to be slipping out of your grasp, it's clearly wiser to grasp tighter than to totally let it go and hunt for another tiger all over again!"
I love it.
I was just talking to my dad about this. We have been given stories our whole lives, and those stories introduce the steps, they do it in such a way you can see a stepping stone for a stone... at the end you can succinctly count and reflect on how they got from point a to point b, even better you can complete the whole experience in the span of a few hours, or a couple of weeks in the case of a novel. Life is far different, you don't know what path you take will take you, you don't know when the book will end, or how, you don't know if the step today is the 5th of 10 or 1000th of 1002. You have to love the pursuit, you have to believe in yourself and the problem, but you should practice some prudence and be reasonable. I think vision and patience are the keys, and never stop trying to lift the product or market into favor.
If your startup is not growing at the pace you expect and you are losing hope/resources (given you have tried your best); find someone (partner/customer) in your circle that can help you make the final push. If onboarding additional pair of eyes/help doesn't work out, MOVE ON!
Thanks @simplisticallysimple for taking the time to put this together! You're a great writer. I've been trying to decide for a while whether to let a project go and this just helped to give it the ol chop chop. The market is just too nascent (or maybe none existent...🤔)at the moment to work on it the way I have been. I'll table it for now.
I'd be keen to read another "how-to" breakdown about how you 5x your MRR partnering with that twitter influencer. (like...how'd you choose who you chose? what kind of partnership do you have?) I'm giving you a follow! 🔥
Hi Silvio, I think only you can answer that question as to whether to move on on your project.
The worst thing is moving on when you're actually unknowingly just this close < > to a major breakthrough. You just never know.
As for my partnership, actually the influencer reached out to me first; he had a partnership previously with my #1 competitor, but they had a falling out, and he decided to partner with me instead.
But I'd contend he wouldn't reach out to me first had I not try to be as visible as possible in the space and also have an attractive affiliate program to accommodate his partnership.
I was at the right place at the right time (e.g. see the recent falling out between donors and GoFundMe, and GiveSendGo was just there to harvest all that massive demand just when donors decided to boycott GoFundMe).
It's not replicable, to be absolutely clear, but that's just how it went.
nicely done sir! informative and a fun read to boot. thanks! i appreciate your inclusion of the sunk-cost fallacy...it can be too easy to fall prey to even when we're aware of the possibility 😅 and the bit about not taking more than a month on an mvp...gonna keep that in my back pocket for motivation.
Yes, it's important to keep our cognitive biases in mind.
Another cognitive bias I'd mention is survivorship bias.
On IH, it seems like everyone is killing it all the time, which can be super-demoralizing when you're struggling, but it only seems that way because only successful people make posts about their milestones, so it's really a highly-unrepresentative sample of indie hackers.
In actual fact, you might be above-average in your progress, though it might not seem that way if you just read top posts on IH.
Hope this helps!