Tom Martin is the creator and host of Pro Channel Manager, a podcast for professional YouTube channel managers.
He launched the podcast in June 2020 and recently hit his 20th episode. He doesn't have a ton of ratings and reviews (yet), but one of the episode pages on his website — about conducting a YouTube channel audit — is already ranking.
Here's how he did it, and how you can too.
People say "transcripts are good for SEO." To become more discoverable, most podcasters throw up a transcript on their episode page along with some basic show notes like a summary of the episode, resources mentioned etc.
That's helpful, but it's not going to bring you major search traffic. You rarely (if ever) see a page like this on SERPs.
Knowing this, Tom creates episodes that are designed to be turned into SEO-optimized blog posts.
Instead of the typical show notes + transcript combo, his episode page includes an audio player along with an article that conveys the full value of the episode (shameless plug: our team helps with the writing part). So you can get exactly what you want to learn either by listening or reading.
He adds a nifty call-out box highlighting links and resources from the episode.
Btw, Tom is in good company with this strategy. This is something Brian Dean of Backlinko recommends.
Before he hits record, Tom — who does both solo episodes and interviews — does keyword research.
He uses a keyword tool like Ahrefs or Long Tail Pro to find keywords with a high search volume and low keyword difficulty.
Sometimes going into a podcast episode with a particular keyword in mind isn’t possible, especially with interview episodes. That’s fine — it doesn't mean you shouldn't create the content.
Tom says, “In an ideal world, I’d never make anything without having keywords to base it on, but sometimes you have to think on your feet and retrofit something you’ve already made.”
In those cases, work backward — take note of the topic(s) or theme(s) covered in an episode and identify strong keywords after the fact.
Tom sees his podcast as step one in his content marketing journey. All his content is “a marketing vehicle to get people into my community," he says.
He wants to grow his audience but doesn't care how they find him. He just wants to ensure that it is easy for them to consume his content wherever they are.
Most podcasters don't think like this.
But if you're using a podcast to market a business/product/service, it's a helpful mindset shift. Your podcast is a vehicle to grow and create a connection with you and what you're making.
Yes, recording an episode and then writing a good article based on it is a LOT of work.
Tom does this for each episode... but even if that's not realistic for you, doing it once a month or combining a few episodes into one epic piece of content periodically can go a long way.
Interesting, thanks!
Thanks so much for the great read!
As a founder of a small transcription saas I'm interested to hear why a transcript isn't sufficient? And also how your service changes the transcript into a blog post that ranks
Thanks @LouTromans! Glad you enjoyed this.
A transcript is a great building block for content. A few reasons that come to mind about why it isn't likely to rank:
Thanks so much for that!!
In response to number 1, how do you change the transcript to answer a question? Is it more to do with the title or the entire piece of content?
That gets into the fundamentals of writing for SEO. You have to work with the title and the rest of the content. There are so many good resources on SEO writing. One person I learn a lot from is @brendanhufford who does SEO For the Rest of Us.
Hey Jaclyn, so sorry for the slow reply this got lost in my notifications!
I'm assuming you use an automatic transcription service to create the transcript and then edit it to create blog posts?
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Appreciate the shoutout!