I am frustrated with no-code. So I built another no-code tool.
So I came across the post of @techPackets (https://www.indiehackers.com/post/i-am-frustrated-with-no-code-i-am-done-14a7ce60cb), and I recognized myself a bit too much.
I'm a developer, and I admit, I find it tiring that I have to code the exact same things over and over again when building something new. And generally speaking, I find coding quite slow, even though I believe I'm a quite experienced dev.
So I tried some no-code tools, and as techPackets told it, it's super frustrating, because you need to search for things you know would be possible in code. And no-code tool usually over simplify things, so that if you need something that a bit out of the scope of your no-code tool, you're stuck.
Sometime ago, I built a video game using the Unreal Engine, and their approach was amazing. Not only you could build an entire video game (which is arguably a bit more complex than a webapp) without coding anything, but even developers used their visual scripting system because it was much faster to build things!
So I'm building a visual scripting platform to make so kind of Unreal Engine, but for webdev: https://luna-park.app. It's far from being feature-complete yet, for now you can just create scripts for your websites, but the foundations are there.
The advantage of visual scripting is that there's still absolutely no coding skills to learn, but the algorithmic part stays, so you can in theory do anything that is possible with code. You should never ask yourself "is this possible ?", but only "how can I do it?".
The counterpart is that it's a bit more difficult to dive in than "traditional" no-code tool that simplify everything. So I also built some kind of game with puzzles to solve to learn visual scripting, and you can try it out here (without signing up): https://luna-park.app/challenge.
Everything is still a bit of a work in progress, but I thought it was a good time to talk about it, I'm really looking forward to some feedbacks and thoughts on this approach :).
what specifically about no-code broke down for you? i'm interviewing non-tech builders about exactly where these tools fail them. would you be open to a short 20-min research chat?
Design looks sick!
Thanks for sharing
Didn't expect to have such compliments on the design, thanks a lot! Hope the features live up to it!
This concept sounds really compelling excited to try it out! I'm also fascinated with the Low Code Space
Awesome landing page!
A small typo at "web engine that let you build" (let -> lets).
As for the app, I am not sure exactly how it would work for a real-world example. Zapier already does something similar with connecting web apps, but the apps themselves must have the Zapier integration.
Thanks a lot! (and thanks for the typo, I'll fix it in the next update, I don't know how I didn't notice...)
Well, Luna Park allows you to build really low level logic, so there's no limit to how complex things can be. Zapier only have a handful of predefined logics. But my long term goal is to be able to build scalable complex apps (like IndieHackers for example) a lot faster and cheaper than "traditional" development.
Very fluid web design, i like it!
Thanks, that's great to hear :D!
cool design of the website
Thanks :)! I believe websites that look cool are a bit more fun to use.