Hi there!
I built this little SAAS product (https://domainwatch.me), published it on ProductHunt (https://www.producthunt.com/posts/domainwatch) and honestly didn't expect much but it received more than 600 upvotes and that resulted in 7000 visitors and almost 1000 signups but ZERO upgrades / paid users.
My background is primary design/development and those things called marketing and sales sound really scary. I was wondering if you guys have any tips and tricks for approaching this situation. How to figure out what's needed to make someone actually pay for the product? Do I create a questionnaire, ask for call...?
For starters, I'm aware that "things that don't scale" usually work well at this stage so I would avoid bulk emailing 1000 users but apart from that, I have no idea how to approach this.
Thanks!
You're grossly underpriced and free plan is far too generous.
Nobody can tell you exactly what you should do here, but here are some things to test...
Benefit of those two is you scale with the customer...the more domains a customer tracks, the more value they get (because it's increasingly more hassle to try to tack lots of domains the more you try).
The thing here is you are offering waayyyyyyyyy too many domains for basically nothing. If somebody is interested in watching 250 domains, they probably already spend thousands or 10's of thousands a month on domains. $19 is nothing. You should be charging those people hundreds a month.
Short answer: charge a veritable crap ton more and stop giving so much away for nothing. :)
Thanks, Josh! Big fan of Baremetrics, I hope to use it once some $$$ start coming in. 😁
Heya @benjam1n – I was one of the many that spotted this on PH and checked it out 😀. I think others are spot on with their feedback thus far (your free plan is too generous etc).
That said, for me, the pricing was all wrong. As a potential customer, I see transactional value here, not ongoing monthly service value.
I'm not sure how much you researched this space, but having used other domain watch / backorder services, I expected to pay per-domain and even hoped you'd lock it up for me automatically when it became available (consider this a future product iteration though).
In the past, I've paid as much as $50 per domain. GoDaddy is charging ~$20 USD/ domain today for a similar service (https://www.godaddy.com/domains/domain-backorder).
Suggestions:
Good luck!
Definitely useful but there's an entire industry around domain dropcatching and it's highly competitive. How could one compete with that?
Heya @benm – two quick thoughts here:
Good luck!
For a service like this I would cut off the freemium and simply offer a 14 day trial, then require the upgrade. There simply isn’t a need for most people to upgrade because of the free plan’s features.
I doubt trial will work as the watched domain(s) will probably not be available within the trial period.
The OP would have to use some sales tactics to convert users faster such as testimonials and reviews. Looks like they have already posted some stats on the landing page. I would think the trial would serve the purpose of showing how easy it is to get up and running on the platform, but maybe a demo is better for that.
There is already a lot of great advice here regarding product, but if you have any questions about actually selling (sales process, overcoming objections, etc), feel free to ask here.
I'm actually launching a Sales for Devs online course soon to help, but happy to answer anything in the meanwhile!
@Mark Fershteyn please post here when you launch your course -- I'm interested!
Agreed, 5 domains is a lot. I would give 1 or two free. Also, 48 hours isn't enough to make me concerned that someone else would snatch it up. Maybe a weekly check would be good for the free plan, then 24 hour checks for the paid plans.
Usually with SaaS pricing, if you are getting most of your users purchasing at too low a price point (which for your service is free) it means that your pricing is too high. If you really want to continue offering the free plan, then what that means is you have to either lower your paid plan price, or really limit the feature offering of the free plan. It's tempting to build more and more features for the paid plan, but if the free plan offers what your customers really want for no money, then extra add-ons that they don't really want isn't going to encourage them to buy the more expensive plan. So before you add any more features, I would work on solidifying the pricing for what you already have.
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Brilliant! That's a great start.
All the best.
Off you go! How are your sales, needle moved there?
Still nothing, I have just started emailing all these people!
Great idea. How about purchasing the domain for users when it becomes available? You could make money by charging for that service.
Yeah, that's a good idea and something I was thinking about adding later. I have yet to figure out which backordering company could be the best to work with. There are hundreds of them and they all seem to be stuck in 1999.
Check out park.io. Maybe you could speak to the guy behind that and work something thing out?
Thanks - will do!
A one domain / extension plan for the free tier is fine.
Consider adding universal watch (foo.com, foo.net, foo.io, foo.fr, foo.co.uk ...) for the paying plans.
But for me to pay such a service, you must prove me that when foo.com gets free to register, you'll detect on time, and I'll be able to register on time. Knowing that there are bots / services (that are registrars too and so get update in advance), auto registering non renewed domains, that's hard.
Universal watcher, that's an awesome idea! Thanks.
Few ways to monetize:
-offer affiliate links directing users to domain providers - this will make you some extra buck
-to make more money above, offer "best domains of the week" - research 10-20 cool domains and send them for free each week - with your link again. This will make you few $$ while you work on other things.
-I cannot see many possibilities with making $$$ without hitting Enterprise customers. I would offer "Domain protection" service, where you can add your own domain and you will get a text notification right before the expiration date.
like others have said 5 is too much
on your paid plans perhaps also offer a wildcard service. Either as a wildcard watch or wild card search.
The other weird thing about this and pricing is domains have known times when they expire. This is really a long term game, perhaps come up with a pricing model around 1 year? 3 years? etc.
I just added a domain to track and noticed that you've made the plan/pricing changes that others have suggested, that's a great first step. I'd be curious to hear how that change goes.
I also echo others suggestion that this at least make an attempt to also register a domain when it becomes available. Integrating with a 3rd party like park.io sounds like the best way to get that working.
After creating my account, I do have a question. Why did you decide to do authentication by sending an email every time someone wants to login? That's a really weird flow vs having a normal username/password, at least in my opinion.
Also, the UI could use a bit more explanation as far as what the different statuses mean, etc. Overall though, it looks like a good start and appears to work as advertised.
Thanks for signing up, Joel!
I wanted to keep it as simple as possible and so far it has worked great, I mean visitor to user conversion rate is around 12.4%. That's above average as far as I know. But if I can figure out the biz model that works I'll definitely get into making it more secure and add a classical signup.
Yeah, I'm working on fixing that. Thanks a lot for you feedback! :)
Just a thought but what if you offered a subscription service. X per year for notifications of any 1 or 2 word .com's that drop?
Don't be scared about marketing and sales. It's all about thinking of things in a users's shoes and the best way to do this is talk to the users. Reach out to individuals directly, who have good activity... added all 5 domains... logged in a few times...
Here are my initial thoughts:
If you are planning to ditch the free plan then i think $9.99/month for starter plan is too much.
I would like to pay like $3.99 for every domain. That would make more sense for sure.
Like $3.99 one-time or yearly?
I was thinking $3.99/month/domain.
Yeah, I'm experimenting now with $2/month/domain: https://domainwatch.me/pricing
Benjamin Alijagic thanks for sharing your experience up until now. I think you are doing a good job because as you might already know up until now (through this community), some dream of those figures! ;-)
Freemium - how to take advantage?
The whole point of having a FREE plan is to get visitors to sign up. They get a FREE service (generous service) and you get a contact. A very important figure called conversion rate becomes prominent then.
But whilst a lot of founders see FREE users as potentially missed opportunity I would like to present this in a different way.
Take advantage of this initial 'seed', make sure you plant it and water it often by asking your 1000 users (not just once - but quite often) to refer their friends. There is a reason why they signed up in the first place. If they intend to stay using your service for FREE at least ask them to refer others who eventually might convert into paying customers.
How can you create a refer-a-friend?
Since your background is development you can go ahead and create a very simple refer-a-friend system where those who refer their friends they will get a discount (just as an example).
You might also consider integrating a 3rd party referral platform which will handle all the details for you whilst you focus on what you do best.
Disclaimer: I am biased since I am the founder of EarlyParrot - a referral marketing platform. But nonetheless EarlyParrot is helping a lot of SaaS like you to take it to the next level. Ping me if you need further advice.
5 is a lot, I would go with 1.
Second this, don't entirely abandon free as it gives you a way to stay in people's inbox for the long run and nurture them to conversion.
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