I've made over 700% return while developing my stock market algorithm
I've been investing, in some form or another, for over 15 years. Throughout this, I have been developing a theory of market dynamics which rejects the idea that the underlying asset matters; instead, the only thing that matters is supply and demand.
Last year, 2021, GameStop happened. For those out of the loop, it went from $17.69 on Jan 8th to over $400 that same month. Recent documents have shown that this was not the expected short squeeze, it was, in fact, retail investors hyping the stock and buying as much as they could, thus increasing the competition for each stock that was sold—meaning people selling could increase the price more and more.
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This event made me believe that my theory had substance and led me to formalizing it. This resulted in...
Feetr
Feetr is a stock discovery algorithm designed to find similar patterns of behaviour then send the data to subscribers 30 minutes before the US market opens. Since August 8th it has found 53,823.363% return and is averaging 5.9236% per day. You can view up-to-date data at feetr.io.
It is currently invite only but will launch soon at a cost of $8.99 per month. The data will be given for free every Monday on Twitter, Reddit, and to people who have an account at feetr.io.
How Feetr Works
Feetr works by analyzing social media to find the stocks that people are talking about and scoring each mention to understand the impact that this will have on people who view the post. It gathers these data points across many different channels multiple times per hour. Using this, it can identify trends and find the stocks that are about to have a huge increase in demand, causing the price to rise.
If this sounds fairly simple, that's because it is. It's a new and revolutionary approach to the market. Currently, people have to analyze charts and try to identify patterns to attempt to predict stock movements, whereas Feetr can leverage large investing communities all over the internet, in which people are openly talking about what they are buying and selling, to make smarter trades.
What Makes Feetr Work
The most important thing for Feetr, I believe, is that I was its first customer. I created it out of a personal need and, when I realized that it could become a viable business, I used it to fund its own development. I got to see when it worked and when it didn't, and I was determined to make sure that it gave me what I required: stocks that increased in price.
Prior to Feetr, I was the lead developer of an e-commerce agency. We were intimately involved in the planning, developing, and ongoing support of many businesses' websites and infrastructure. This meant that we were hands-on with many different companies and we got to see how many people take these wildly different approaches to the same sort of problems.
Our most successful clients were the ones who were passionate about their products. They knew the market inside and out as they were prominent members of their respective communities. They had requirements that they felt were not being met by the existing products or services and that forced them to go out and fill the gaps in the market themselves. In effect, they were building the products that they wanted to buy.
When you are building for yourself you don't need to worry much about things like product/market fit as you are the market. You know exactly what you want. Yes, you need to research if other people are experiencing the same pain points as you are, but, as your first customer, you get to see how valuable your product is first hand.
If Feetr sounds interesting to you, please consider following feetr_io on Twitter for updates.
This is a fascinating approach — formalizing a theory around pure supply/demand dynamics and social sentiment is incredibly powerful. GameStop was a perfect case study that exposed the limitations of traditional models.
Your point about "building the product you want to buy" resonates deeply. I took a similar path: after years in algo-trading, I grew tired of the fragmented landscape of strategies, backtesting tools, and broker data. That's why I started building ScriptAlgo – a centralized, curated hub for algorithmic traders.
It's interesting to see how you're leveraging social data for entry signals. On ScriptAlgo, I'm structuring knowledge around systematic strategy logic, execution platforms, and data sources – almost like the foundational layer before social sentiment comes into play.
Your experience as the first customer is the best validation. Curious: did you backtest your social sentiment approach against historical data, or did you focus purely on forward-testing from the start?
Basic economics: if ANYBODY was able to generate the returns you’ve claimed, they would simply earn billions for themselves and not try selling it to other people.
exactly what I would do, doesn't make sense sharing it.
absolutely agree with you :).
If you're curious about my reasoning for this, I wrote this below:
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I've gotta say, your claims of a 53,823.363% return are throwing up some serious red flags. I want to give you the benefit of the doubt here, would you mind elaborating on that figure?
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I see. In that case, that and the "5.9236% per day" figures are both extremely misleading. I would go so far as to call this "lying." You're in very sketchy territory here. I would strongly recommend that you replace those figures with something more reflective of the real-life performance of your algorithm.
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I just looked at your website, and it's definitely communicated more clearly there than in this post. I would still say including that "maximum potential return" figure is really ridiculous. I have a personal stock watchlist myself. If I had bought and sold the stocks on that list perfectly over the past few years, I would be a billionaire. I'm not a billionaire.
Your figures need more explanation on the website. At the very least you need an asterisk with a proper description in small text. With any product in the investing space like this, your communication really needs to meet a much higher standard.
Regardless, congrats on your excellent returns and on shipping a product! The truth is that you're operating in an area full of a lot of scammy shit, so legitimate products need to work a little harder to communicate their legitimacy. Your claims and copy really set off my bullshit alarm, and I figured it wouldn't be helping you to not say anything.
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The concern is that your app doesn't help with "selling it at the highest point that day" so it can't really claim the 53k% return
It can claim to have found that % return, which is verifiable. I haven't made the claim that any human has made that, and I started the article off by stating that I personally made over 700% return using it.
I use Maximum Potential Return as a metric to encourage people to start thinking about how compound interest is affecting their own investments, especially given the time frames that Feetr encourages.
With those astounding returns, you can raise $10s of millions or more - you wouldn't need to sell this for $8.99/mo. You realize that any backtest can look absolutely astounding because your timing the entry/exists, not accounting for trade capacity and order slippage etc. Not too mention that market dynamics are obviously changing - in last 2 years literally anything and everything went through the roof (i..e just the mention of blockchain would make a small cap stock jump 50%) - when the Fed is inflating asset prices , the ocean rises and lifts everything with it. Now that environment is obviously changing and will be a lot more challenging - its very doubtful we will see GME/AMC manias again. Highly dubious that there is any lasting alpha in your approach.
I think that there is a difference in approach here. I don't need to raise money at this point as Feetr is funding itself.
Also, it's worth pointing out that, at this time, Feetr is not a trading algorithm. It's a stock discovery algorithm. Feetr will find stocks which are about to become volatile and it's on the subscriber to trade.
GME may not happen again, but luckily Feetr isn't only predicting meme stocks.
I think everyone can appreciate a company that was created from a pain point of its founder. However, I am by no means an economist or trader but to see such outlandish figures makes me skeptical. Nonetheless, good on you for making yourself a pretty 700% return that's impressive if nothing else. Cheers mate!
Indeed, I'm curious what type of info does he use as bullish/bearish signals. Otherwise, congrats for him
To give a high level overview, it's looking for occasions where demand is about to massively increase for a stock, making the price much more volatile. Higher demand for a stock means that people trying to purchase are in competition, giving people selling the stock the opportunity to increase their asking prices.
By utilising social media, we are able to find these stocks. Feetr doesn't provide a stock every day as there are many occasions where there just isn't one to recommend.
There is also a lot of processing and validation to ensure that each stock pick has a high chance of success.
Thanks for reading!
I want scepticism. I know how it sounds, and I understand everyone's trepidation. Everything is available and, at times, free. I have everything to prove, and nothing to hide.
I'm cocky enough to think that I can convert the naysayers to subscribers, so hopefully I see you soon!
I wouldn't consider myself a naysayer more someone who's just under-informed and a bit out of loop with this level of investing. If you continue to post updates I am more than happy to continue reading along and learning. If I do decide to subscribe ill let you know!
Please do! But don't subscribe if you're unsure of how investing works. Feetr will post for free every Monday and data is available at market close. Play along on paper to get a feel for it.
I'd like to have more articles about certain trading strategies and ideas, just to try to get people interested in Feetr to a base level of knowledge but right now Investopedia is the best you can find (IMO).
Will certainly set some time aside to read up on my investing. I also plan to kinda just follow along and see how it performs. I appreciate your sincerity and honest nature, comes across very well.
This is simply and purely a scam. It should be deleted and the author should be very very careful not to get into big trouble.
This is an equivalent "Algorithm" which will generate the same or a superior "return"
= Pick 10 stocks randomly every day
= Choose retroactively the one which shown the biggest % increase between its opening and its highest price of the day
= Claim for your "algorithm" all those potential earnings only God could have actually realized
= Assume this can be compounded without fail day after day after day and say these are the numbers your "algorithm" (TM) can achieve
Every person with a higher than room temperature IQ will realize the stupidity of this.
Thanks for reading and commenting!
I can assure you that this is not a scam however I do not want you, or anybody else, to trust me. Feetr data is available after market close every day. Also, when Feetr launches, data will be given for free every Monday on Twitter, Reddit, and to people who have an account at feetr.io.
I'm very skeptical it will work in the long run. This strategy isn't something new, and you are fighting against very sophisticated investors.
For people considering this, it may work, who knows, just make sure not to invest money with people and companies you don't know (especially Uk companies which are very easy to set up and close). This idea of "I have an automated algo idea that is great with >100% profit, come join me" is something a lot of people fell for in the crypto world. Where you could even withdraw money (of other people, which was a ponzi scheme) - until they fled with the money. I would be very hesitant to joining something like this if it is anything other than a subscription service.
And even then these claims seem very much astounding.
P.S. also always ask yourself why something sounds too good to be true.
Cool product!
Like others have said, I'd be careful with the flowery marketing language around the returns. I don't know the legality around that kind of stuff and I'd be curious around what the SEC states about these kinds of services.
I do a lot of trading, in fact I too have been developing a product that helps facilitate my own trades (though it's not specific to stocks, it's more of a specialized note taking app).
From how you've described your product, it sounds like it is targeting momentum trades and largely following retail traders, which means it works mainly on stocks that have high short float, low institutional ownership where retail can specifically tip the scales so to speak.
As someone who pays for a number of trading services (TradeIdeas, TraderSync) - the pricing model comes off slightly cheap.
I happily coughed up the money for TradeIdeas which costs 10x what you're charging (iirc around 1200/yr?).
Granted, TradeIdeas is a little more than something that just gives suggestions with all of its features it offers.. but the main thing I'm getting at is: if you're getting great returns from a service, you are willing to pay a lot for it. Especially in this particular niche.
When I see 8.99/mo for a service like this where there are tons of others priced much higher, I gravitate towards the higher pricing.
Thanks for reading, and thanks for the great comment!
Thankfully, Feetr is legally sound and complies with all guidance for such a service. Feetr is not currently open to the public, and that's why things like Terms and Conditions are not publicly accessible.
The pricing is something that is brought up a lot. Feetr is free every Monday and if that makes you over $8.99 then it's a no brainer. I want Feetr to be accessible to all investors as well as a tool that helps them grow their wealth in ways that existing services do not.
I understand that the low pricing may be off putting and that's why I'm transparent about all of the data that Feetr has recommended. I'm not a materialistic person and so I don't require a lot of money to live a life that I'm happy with.
I know there is a mini thread on this already but "Feetr is a stock discovery algorithm designed to find similar patterns of behaviour then send the data to subscribers 30 minutes before the US market opens. Since August 8th it has found 53,823.363% return and is averaging 5.9236% per day." is extremely misleading. When you're dealing with people's investments, I would tread with caution. Better to remove that and display actual results. What are you afraid of by showing your actual results? Even if it's 50 percent, it's better than most people have done since August.
I disagree that it's misleading as it's verifiable fact that it has done both of those things. The data is there to encourage people to 1) check the results themselves, and 2) learn about what Feetr signals they trust.
I will also note that the title is that I've made 700%.
By the sounds of it, you have a cool product. Unfortunately, everyone is focused on this one statistic. If we are all thinking this, so are your customers. Why risk it?
Truthfully it's because 1) I can always undo it if it proves to be unpopular and 2) the vast majority are on board with the metric. Not to be dismissive, I understand and appreciate the concerns with using MPR as a value, I just think that explaining it is a much better option at this time.
Also, just to remove the idea that I've just started becoming cognisant of the issue of MPR, here is me discussing it with someone of Mastodon: https://fosstodon.org/web/@smcn/108255361535601902
I've never tried to hide that MPR is unachievable by humans, but that it's a VERY good way to think about investing (compound interest), and what I want Feetr subscribers to consider when they're investing.
Cool, I don’t have the time to examine your history on this. I’m reading the one paragraph and giving you my opinion. It’s a cool product and I hope it works out for you.
Thanks for the kind words!
It feels kind of cheating to compare the open price to highest price of the day, unless you also have some kind of algorithm to be able to predict when to sell. Also it makes it impossible to get negative increases! It would be interesting to see the same data with selling at a spesific time, for example at the close of the day, it would probably look completely different
I want to sincerely thank you for reaching out with a great point. However, I believe that tracking the Open and Highest price is the only fair way of measuring what Feetr is actively looking for, which is stocks which are about to become volatile and fluctuate by incredible margins. The increased price does not need to last for the rest of the day, or even the rest of the hour.
Through Feetr, there have been many times when I've bought in at market open and selling for profit under 30 minutes later.
For a better idea of the risk associated with day trading, I would encourage you to read:
The benefit of Feetr in this regard is that you, the trader, do not need to do any analysis of the stock market as you're being fed this information on a near daily basis. This allows you to focus entirely on the few stocks that Feetr suggests and optimize your profit from this.
As for the idea of letting subscribers know when to sell, that is being actively worked on and is a part of Phase 2, which is when Feetr will become an Investment Fund. This functionality will not be gated off behind the fund; it will be available to all subscribers.
Epic product. I'm considering a sign up. I'm curious what type info do you use as bullish/bearish signals and what sources do you pull from?
(As a dev I'm also curious of your stack!)
We use "Impression" to score each stock, and this is based on several different factors which have more basis in psychology than math. Bullish/Bearing is a fairly impressive (if I do say so myself) sentiment analysis algorithm.
The stack is almost entirely Lisp. I use CCL for local development, and SBCL for production. I most likely will do an actual post about what Lisp in production is like as I believe that it's uniquely suited for small team projects.
I also use AWS for servers, PostgresQL as the DB, Caddy as a webserver, and Postmark for email.
Thanks for the reply @smcn.
Cool stack. I would like to read about Lisp in production.
Always cool to see an Indie Hacker using Lisp. I'd definitely be interested in reading about that!
Are there any protections against market manipulation attempts? One scenario could be someone analyses your api-calls discovers the communities you are collecting data from, and then bot nets the sh*t out of them in order to create artificial demand for a stock. Does the algorithm accounts for that or it leaves that responsibility to the community?
Yes, that thinking was a first class citizen when Feetr was being developed. Because of the way Feetr tracks this data, and because of the way Feetr identifies trends, it would be practically impossible to fool Feetr without having intimate knowledge of the code base.
We're also really selective about which communities we choose and constantly reassess to make sure that they're having organic discussions.
Buying and selling the stock is the responsibility of the subscriber but Feetr does its utmost to make sure that it's giving solid, actionable selections. Believe it or not, Feetr is fairly conservative as I would rather consistent wins as opposed to 50/50 chance of 20% a day. Compounding interest is the goal.
Hmm, I also agree with you that the underlying asset doesn't matter, or at least the past few years have proven this correct.
But one thing to note is that we've been in a historic bull run over the last 18 months as well. No stocks have behaved according to fundamentals, and anyone could have picked any stock out of a hat in the las 18 months and probably saw absurd returns on their investment.
But will your strategy really work long term? And by long term I mean a decade plus? We're already seeing that qualitative easing is going reel in the market and bring it back to reality. FAANG is being dealt a significant blows daily, and the market seems poised for a massive correction or long term crash.
I'd be careful following your theory into a bear market...
Thank you so much for reading and reaching out. I completely agree with your points, however, I'd say that we're actually already experiencing a downturn in the market, and we have been for months now. For example, the S&P 500 heatmap is mostly a bloodbath these days.
My belief is that trading has fundamentally changed and it will not be going back, at least not any time soon. The market is just peer to peer trading and now, thanks to companies like Robinhood, everyone is trading, and more and more people are trading based on memetic influences.
The strategy will work at least as long as there are trading communities with the kind of interaction that we're currently seeing.
Not to give too much of the secret sauce away but, perhaps surprisingly, WallStreetBets doesn't crack the top 10 data feeds for Feetr. The best is significantly smaller but more densely populated by high quality investors.
Any ETA on when this launches?
Thanks for the interest! We're targeting next month.
Thank you for sharing, in fact I am also skeptical about your product. Because not only do you not need to promote it if it has such a high return, you probably wouldn't even want to let people know you have such a great product.
If your product is really that great, bro, you just need to give all your money to your product to take care of and you will be a multi-millionaire in no time.
Of course, even if your product did achieve a 700% return, I still wouldn't recommend using it as a publicity stunt. This is because it will raise users' expectations and when they don't achieve 700% after using it, they will be disappointed and even think it is a scam.
Thanks for reading!
Just to confirm, Feetr does not currently invest on people's behalf. It is still up to each individual user to choose when to buy and sell.
Also, I'm allowing Feetr to be used by the public because I believe it would he morally reprehensible if I had a tool that made me a lot of money and I didn't at least try to let others use it. It costs money because I will not be investing when it launches due to my having early access to the data, giving me an advantage over other subscribers.
I'm in a win/win position. Either Feetr takes off or it doesn't and I just close it down and use it myself.
As for not requiring any promoting. Well, you're here and I haven't done anything yet.
Good luck!
Much appreciated!
Please add an email subscription to your site so it would be easier to be informed about your product, launch, news, etc.
It's actually about to launch very soon, if I were you, and I were certain about wanting to be updated about launch, I'd follow feetr_io on twitter. Also, I'm tempted to do an announcement on IH as I've had some pretty positive feedback thus far.
Does feetr show you the stocks that will go up or the ones that have already gone up but will continue going up? Then we have to decide when to sell, right?
Both, but mostly the ones that are about to increase. Yes, selling is entirely up to you and I would recommend taking a backseat and watching Feetr through the Monday stocks as they're free if you're new to investing.
Definitely sounds interesting! I know I'm not good at stock picking so I'm willing to trust a robot!
The one thing that I want to make clear is that you should trust nothing. Feetr data is free every Monday (when it launches) and all data is available after the fact. My ultimate goal is for subscribers to make as much money as possible, and that's why I encourage people to be conservative about signing up.
Really like what you're doing! Sounds very interesting. I've worked on a few DeFi based products/platforms where we were looking at something similar.
Are you looking for someone with UX/UI skills to come on board? I'm always keen to explore possibilities with new and exciting projects, especially in areas that I'm interested in :)
Not at the moment however I'm writing your username down. I definitely think that we'll be talking soon!
Looks interesting. Definitely gonna take a look. Congrats on your product!
Thank you so much for the kind words!
Hey @smcn, very interesting post! Is there a way to get into your beta to see and test your product?
I sent you a DM on Twitter, hope that's okay!
Hi Romain, I cannot thank you enough for asking but unfortunately (fortunately?) Feetr is launching very soon and we're gearing up for that at the moment and I want to make sure that everyone from this point on is correctly on-boarded.
Don't worry, managing onboarding and ensuring user have a smooth experience is key. Good luck and let us know when we can start to test it :)
Stephen I think you can charge more for your product and grow it big. It seems you're planning to get traction in a form similar to a newsletter. In case you want to grow it as a saas - will be happy to help, let's connect on twitter.
Hi Denis,
First of all, thank you so much for reading!
Truthfully, I would release Feetr for free because I believe that it can help people in an economy which is becoming harder and harder to exist in. Not only has investing in Feetr allowed me to quit my job but a few of my beta testers have been able to make more than their monthly salary.
It's not free because I believe it to be morally wrong for me to be able to invest in Feetr stocks as I have early access to, and total control over, the data. And it's not released as a self hosted service because it would cost at least as much to host, and this way everyone gets the same updates and nobody needs to worry about server management/security.
That's an incredible offer, thanks! Phase 2 of Feetr will be an investment fund and I think you could be super helpful with that.
All the best,
Stephen
Unlike fancy tik tokers you haven't sent 10 000 "to the roof" charts, but now even I want to try this algorithm haha (stopped investing after once lost 60% overnight)
Not yet, anyway. Just wait until the release of FeetrToken, which is the new Web4.9 blockchain based NFT which will render sunglasses obsolete.
Thank you so much for those kind words. Investing is rough and I would not tell anyone to invest in anything (Feetr included) if they were in any way on the fence. Feetr will send out the data for free each Monday with the idea being that if Monday makes you over $8.99 then it's worth subscribing and, if it doesn't, then I need to rethink the algorithm.
Also, https://feetr.io will be updated daily after market close so that people can see what Feetr predicted and they can analyse what happened after the fact, without the pressure of your money being on the line.
My investment advice for people who want to park their money for a couple years and don't want to manage it, is to invest in an Index Fund. A great resource for this would be a community like https://www.reddit.com/r/Bogleheads.
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Your product sounds interesting, but stay away from such corny and markety titles that turn people away lately. Good luck with the product development.
I see you are winning the popularity contest on the forum. You seem to have struck a nerve. I however, like what you have done. Probably because I wanted to build the exact same thing during the GameStop fiasco as well. It was quite obvious at that time retail traders had a lot of power to move stocks. I also had another idea of a more social Robinhood where retail traders could become a herd, but I figured the SEC would come right after it, so no thanks! Only hedge funds can get away with that ;-) Anyway, I look forward to seeing how Feetr fairs from here.
Thank you! Truthfully, I want the negative comments. I want people to be sceptical and I want them to be cautious. I believe in what I've built and I'm proud of the work that I've done. If anyone has reservations I want to be able to answer them.
I'm blown away by how positive the response has been, honestly. I was expecting 3 people to view the post, 2 of them to tell me to fuck off, and the last to report me. The fact that I've had >1k views and really good engagement here and on Twitter has really inspired me.
It's on Feetr to prove its worth and I know that it can do that.
So its sentient analysis on stocks. Not, as you claim, a new idea.
A lot of people are doubtful of your claims; the "maximum potential return" is certainly misleading. I would be much more impressed if you could show the return of the highest confidence picks over the course of a week/month/year. As in, not the ones that turned out to be winners, but the ones your algorithm expected to be. Anyone serious about his will understand the difference and will trust you far more.
If you're serious about the product, and you believe it actually works, I'd recommend making an API available asap, so that algo traders can work your signals into their systems without manually inputing them from an email or whatever.
It includes sentiment analysis but that's a relatively small part of the overall algorithm.
I don't understand the second part though. You're seeing what Feetr expects to increase. Each day Feetr finds something to the effect of 200 stocks and will process those to give even more chance of people making money.
API is on the cards but as it is only relevant to a subset of subscribers, it is not the current focus. Details will follow closer to the release of it.
Interesting project. Would be very interesting in trying this out if you’re looking for honest feedback. Email me if you want another tester. I’m also a web dev with over 15 years experience and into trading and would love to help if you needed.
Feetr is launching soon so I'm currently unable to add any more beta testers at this time, sorry. I do appreciate the offer of help and will keep you in mind should Feetr start to expand!
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This was my reply to this further down. I believe that Feetr will make me money, but I don't require a lot to be happy. I also want Feetr to be priced at a point where you cannot afford to not pay for it.
What would be incredibly useful is the average time after market open when the high took place. Is it within the first hour? Is it a late afternoon run? When to sell is as important (if not more) than when to buy.
Either way, I'll be watching Feetr as it looks pretty cool. Great work 😁
Thanks very much for the kind words!
This is being actively worked on. Realistically there is no one-size-fits-all approach to when best to sell. Some stocks increase massively right out of the gate, some fluctuate wildly over the day, and some are slow burners that start boosting during power hour. But I do believe that it's solvable.
Wasn't this basically the point of the latest video of Michael Reeves? Fish VS Reddit?
I haven't seen this exact video but I've seen things like it. I'm taking it that random chance is better than Reddit over X days?
If so, I'd agree! Reddit is not great over a certain length of time, that's why Feetr is geared towards day trading. Fundamentals win the war but sentiment wins the battle.
So first of all, the video is hilarious and is definitely worth a watch just for the laughs.
Then what he does basically is random chance VS sentiment analysis of the wallstreetbets subreddit and in the end the fish outperforms them. The amazing thing, which just demonstrates that it's completely random is that the fish also outperforms the NASDAQ
I'd love to see it if you have a link handy!
What's really funny is that random chance is an insanely good investor. There was a hamster on Twitter, I'm sure? Something like that? Also remember Paul the octopus at the World Cup?
While it might work, it surely will not. Better on the highest gainer will end up with significant risks. For example, ARKK.
The best would be sell as a tool to enable others to use this algorithm.
Thanks for reading!
At the current time, Feetr is a stock discovery algorithm which means that it's finding volatile stocks and sending these to subscribers to allow them to trade using their own risk assessment.
It's absolutely vital to say that you should absolutely stay away from Feetr if you are not sure what you're doing. Feetr will release data for free every Monday and will post its data at the close of trading every day. If you wish to practise, you do not need to give me, or the market, any money.
This is amazing! I think people are underestimating how extremely powerful it is to know what stocks will have upward volatility in any given day. I'd love to get beta access, but if you're too close to launch to let in any other testers, I will gladly be an early customer.
Thank you so much, that's an incredible thing to say!
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