Hello there!
I am currently living in Bali for 2 months, and here goes a crazy idea:
When you want to learn to code for a "career switch", you have mainly two options:
Bootcamps and online courses.
Bootcamps:
Honestly, their approach to educations seems to be based more on trying to "justify how much they charge" than in "how learning actually works".
Online courses:
What I am thinking about (and I would really like your feedback):
The UPS would be:
"Live in Bali for 1.500€/month while learning to code at your own path and around like-minded people. Come back to your home with:
How would we offer that?
We will rent a villa for 20 people on Bali, and organize accomodation and meals so they can keep 100% of their focus on the learning process. The villa will be preapared to optimize the learning process: individual rooms with proper desk, common areas with co-learning spaces and "entertainment" areas to recharge.
We will negotiate with the best online coding school to have a custom online program.
Every body on the villa will be learning at their own path, so you avoid "the pressure" of bootcamps. No "live classes" (that doesn't make sense...it could be recorded and view at your own path!).
No fixed pace. You will learn at your own rythm and you will be around like-minded people. Some of them are ahead of you, some behind. Expontaneous conversations about coding and learning will arise.
We will provide activities for the weekend, so you can socialize and get you bateries recharge.
At the end, you will go through an exam to certify you acquired the knowledge and you are prepared to get into the job market.
We will help you find your new job if that's what you wish.
Basically, we would be offering a "blended learning experience" that takes the best of the both alternatives (bootcamps vs online courses) and makes them affordable (even cheaper than online courses at your own city probably).
I LOVE the concept, and the idea of getting into the education sector really turns me on.
Just wanted to share here to have some feedback / ideas / see if any fellow IH who's considering learning to code would be willing to join.
So...thoughts?
Thanks!
Sounds like a fantastic idea. I have a friend who is currently in Bali working remotely and he says there are a lot of expats there from EU/US.
I'm currently doing a coding bootcamp and would be interested in your program, but I would be just interested in being around other folks who are learning to code.
Perhaps your program won't need to provide coding course instruction at all, it can let folks from various programs get together.
Hey!
Yep, I guess that could be an option, but I would like to make sure that the education quality is "top notch" and letting each person choose their own program...I think it would not help to keep the learning standars!
Just for curiosity, what bootcamp are you doing now? It's a bootcamp or an online course?
I like the idea.
It fits well second career people, who could get away from their lives and families and immerse themselves in the learning process.
Cohorts are great, 20-50, people can make friends and help each other.
Strict rules 8-10 h of work, time to have fun.
I do NOT like online classes, better hire teachers, assistants, also faster more advanced students can help others.
Pricing: you pay a regular price for life expenses and a market price for learning.
Thanks for your feedback @ArkSzklar !
Regarding your opinion about online courses vs teachers...I don't get it and I would really appreciate some more detail...
What do you think a "live training" offers that an online course does not?
I don't see bootcamps like...ironhack or lewagon doing any better job that the guys of treehouse.
And I don't see any advantage of a live class vs an online class.
The opposite indeed: a live class depends on the "mood" of the teacher that day, while "video online classes" are recorded and edited to maximize efficiency and improve the learning experience.
My opinion: teachers should only be there for the moments you get stuck, not to "repeat the same lesson again and again".
I think the model where the teacher repeats the same lesson over and over is bad for everybody:
The student gets a suboptimal class delivery (for example...what if the teacher feels sick that day? or she/he just didn't get a proper sleep, or simply she/he is not in the mood).
The teacher gets bored, and that ends up with higher teacher rotation and less motivated teachers.
The only part that "wins" here is the school, that is able to justify higher prices.
I think that betting on this "blend model" (online courses in a "on site retirement with a community) is key for the project that I am thinking about, and changing that would make the project "just another bootcamp".
But as I said, I am super open and would really appreciate if you share you opinion about what I just said!
Nothing deep, just my feelings. You flow people around the globe to give them an online experience sounds weak TO ME.
But...let's forget about the fact that it would be in Bali. What do you think "live" classes offer that online training misses?
Thanks!
Again this is me. Coding is very dry (emotionally) and tricky, online learning is also dry and generic. In-person learning either with a tutor or other people is, in my opinion, much better. Of course, you can learn dry material from a dry online course but it is not fun and it is tough to sustain engagement over a longer time. Lastly, I love learning and I am always on the lookout for better ways, so my opinion is well balanced, I mean what I say.
I guess we have different ways of understanding "learning", and that's ok! :)
Thanks for your feedback!
If you believe in this idea strongly nothing should stop you.
You can even validate simply, have friends over, and have a short session of cooking learning followed by prepping the meal together and a regular party after.