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Need advice: How to promote on Reddit?

Hi everyone. I am trying to promote my product on subreddits but I noticed that those where my users would reside have strict no self-promotion rules. How can I hack my way around that rule?

If you have any suggestions on subreddits to check out (I'm a reddit n00b), I have a next generation natural sweetener that not only sweetens foods but also enhances flavor. My aim is to take willpower out of the equation of a healthy diet by making nutritious foods taste as indulgent as the junk foods that are otherwise killing us.

r/dieting, r/keto, r/diabetes, r/parenting are all ideal but my posts instantly got removed :(

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on August 25, 2020
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    Content marketing is what works on Reddit. Instead of shamefully promoting your product, create a really good and useful article related to your niche, publish it on your website's blog and put that on Reddit instead. You have to provide actual value for the users before they would even consider checking your product.

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      I think it's generally a good idea! But be careful about this approach when you actually do it. Some subreddits don't even allow the links to your blogs :)

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      I'll have to give that a try. I wonder if it would still be self-promoting XD

      I'll let you know how it goes.

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      This is actually really great advice. Thanks very much.

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      Some ideas of articles: how-to tutorials, story of how you decided to make the product, comparison between multiple products, etc.

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    Don't got in with a mindset of promoting your product. Imagine if you walked into a party and did that. You wouldn't last long.

    Think of the people behind the reddit channels and how they want to create discussions that align with their topics and create the type of content that they want to see. Seek to be educational and helpful (in posts and comments), then along the way you'll find ways to talk about what it is you do.

    Alternatively, try Reddit ads, I've read some people having success with that.

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      Great analogy and excellent advice. Thanks very much for posting this!

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      I appreciate that. I definitely am trying to iterate on the messaging. Each one is customized to the subreddit and is more informative than it is sales-y. It is an interesting product that sparks intellectual curiosity - that's why I got some traction on Hacker News and r/alcohol.

      I posted on r/pickyeaters and even though I was #1 on the page and had a high ratio of upvotes:downvotes, I still got removed.

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    Some communities allow you self-promoting, on specific days, or on specific threads. Just follow the rules.

    But overall, I found Reddit very hard to promote too, especially in specific subreddits.

    You can try paid promos thought, they are pretty cheap.

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      I'll look into the ads if that's the only way. It is just unfortunate because I genuinely think my product can help these people but it sounds "too good to be true".

      Those forums that allow self promotion like r/smallbusiness and r/entrepreneur have terrible conversions because people go to that post to just promote, not to shop.

      I try to generate interesting and helpful comment but keep getting removed for one reason or another "to protect the safety of our community"

      For instance I posted a cool video https://youtu.be/MBcp-kY_XGo?t=322 on people trying high end whiskeys with miracle berry on r/whiskey and I got removed. I got 12 upvotes on r/pickyeaters which only has 2k followers and comments like "wow this sounds incredible. wish you all the best" and got removed by mods a few hours later.

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        Yeah, I told you it's not easy. Promoting in startups and other such communities doesn't make much sense. You need your niche communities which usually are SUPERstrict about self-promo. Ce la vie. Try paid ads.

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          Yeah. Sad that the people who need your product don't even want to hear about it. I'll check out ads.

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            Let us know how the ads work for you! Quite keen to know

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              experimenting with tiktok right now

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            Well, it's life and people are just so tired of others who have useful products. If they want to buy something they, literally speaking, would visit a store. Reddit is for other things.

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    How about posting recipes that use your sweetener? So you can add a link in the recipe.

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      I suggested some miracle berry cocktails on r/cocktails but got removed :(

      I think the key is not including your link at all until people ask for it.

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    Well, a lot of people did say that already in some form, but I'll reiterate. Traditional promotion almost never works and is often not allowed in subreddit rules. 'Guerrilla' tactics of plugging your product in discussions may work, but you're at mercy of the mods and how good their mood is at any given day.

    Subreddits are communities. People go there to scroll through images, videos and stories. A minority of people is looking to actively participate in discussions by commenting.

    Overall, promoting on reddit is hard unless you genuinely enjoy wasting time in the subreddits you target. In my experience, the recipe to get you product out there without gettinng banned or harrased looks something like this:

    • identify the subrreddits (you've done that)
    • read the rules and understand their stance on promotion
    • read the hell out of /r/subreddit/top posts AND comments for the past month
    • get a sense of the common problems and questions that people are talking about (similar-theme subreddits may be VERY different in that regard)
    • come up with a list of areas where your PERSONAL expertise can help people with the common problems
    • start commenting on the threads where you can provide value, but don't link anything
    • don't even mention that you have anything to sell or market unless asked directly
    • after a while, you may start mentioning your business in context (e.g. you write a bunch of nutrition insight in a relevant thread and at the bottom add "Source: I've worked X years on a healthy sweetener")
    • do NOT link to anything unless asked to

    Overall, it's probably not for people who expect to treat it like another marketing channel. Chances of you being 'called out on your bs' when you're trying to honestly promote your thing are very high. In part because some people are toxic, but in part because most subreddits prioritize substance over promotion. Overall, it's usually very tribal, but if you earn enough street cred, you can fit right in.

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      This was super helpful. Thank you for taking the time to write it out. I find it hilarious YC promotes reddit launches when it is basically not allowed. I guess the times have just changed and they don't know.

      How about HN? I had one post that did well but all other posts afterwards got flagged to hell. Not sure if I got lucky on the first one, or if there's a filter against posting too often. I tried to reposting similar but different content to test different verticals.

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        Can you elaborate more on your HN experience? About to launch there and would appreciate some feedback

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          IDK dude, it is still a black box for me. Here was my post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24205037

          Not sure if I reposted too much (not a copy&paste, they were significantly different) or if the legitimate name of my ingredient "miracle fruit" just gets the trolls knocking on my door to get it flagged as a scam instead of typing it into google and finding out it is a real thing.

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            " "miracle fruit" just gets the trolls knocking on my door to get it flagged as a scam instead of typing it into google and finding out it is a real thing."
            I think that might be the case, unfortunately :/

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        No problem.

        Reddit launches can be a thing, BUT. You need to be an established member of a community (subreddit) for it to fly. The reasons are above – super tribal and protective of the 'substance', all the way to power-tripping sometimes.

        No experience with HN, sorry. But if you had a post that did well, compare it critically to the other ones – what did you do differently? Reposts are frowned upon on Reddit and I wouldn't be surprised if that's the case with HN.

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    It's very tough, people are super super hostile. You can write a huge essay and have a link to your blog at the bottom and that will cause it to be deleted.

    In my current project I made it to solve a specific subreddits problem, that subreddit changed the rules after I made my product, then shadowbanned me and won't respond to messages asking why.

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      yikes.

      Any other channels you had more success with? I tried HN and did decent but have been unable to replicate it without getting flagged.

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        I have a lot of experience with Facebook ads, so I've been doing that. It's a different type of thing from Reddit.

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          Got tips for that? Different in a good conversion way? One thing I wonder is if my website is legit enough yet for paid ads. If people click but think it is fake then it won't be profitable.

          http://miracle-nutrition.com/

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            Usually you just try and see what happens. If you gather some pictures together 1.9:1 or 4:5 and some ad copy I can sit down and make some ads with you for an hour or so, see what shakes out. You will also need the Facebook pixel installed, it's really easy to do that with wordpress.

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              That is extraordinarily generous of you! I'll have to hit you up once I am ready for that.

              What is 9:1 and 4:5 referring to?

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                *1.91:1

                It's the image dimensions ratio, it wasn't very clear when I wrote it.

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    Oh and if anyone could give me some feedback on my website that would be much appreciated! I have 0 aptitude for design so any actionable feedback would be awesome. I also need to know if the content is clear and whether you walk away with the impression that the site is trustworthy.

    http://miracle-nutrition.com/

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      my 2cents: all the red colors and the name "miracle berry" immediately suggested me some kind of sex product without reading anything, so I think I would change the colors to something more green/blue. I also believe the "red highlight" on top of the video isn't helping either!

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        great advice! I'm probably going to shift to the scientific name because I've already gotten lots of flack for being a scam even though that's the accepted name of the fruit.

        I'm rebranding and you're spot on from shifting away from red XD

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    I had a small side project that did about $600 sales just from some reddit threads. It was a custom pet product and I just posted images off google and pretended that the product and dog in the photo was mine. As long as you don't post a link in the post you should be fine and people don't recognise this as an ad. The only problem is you then have to individually dm every person the link who is interested but once your post has been up for about 48 hrs I found that you could post the link under a popular comment on your post and get the post would stay up and that way anyone who wanted to go onto your website in the future can.

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      Is DM'ing acceptable or could get you banned? I suppose as long as they opted in then who would report you right? Also how do you go about DM'ing them before they buy your competitor XD

      I do like the 48 hour rule.

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    Run an ad campaign. It is self service,
    fast and affordable. Not too advanced on the targeting or analytics though as G or FB

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    On reddit, you need to have an older account and gain some karma. Then self-promotion becomes much easier, but of course one has to be reasonable. So try to contribute to various communities, gain some trust, etc. We even created our own subreddit r/orgpad which we try to grow slowly.

    Btw. I think selfpromotion is frowned upon because most people promote something they don't really believe in and just try to gain money. With OrgPad I truly believe it can help a lot of people. Otherwise I wouldn't left my $200k a year job at Google to found our startup. Good luck with your endevours.

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      Seems like we're in the same boat

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    I would say don't do it. Reddit is a hard place to get traction even if you're not trying to promote. My suggestion would be to find other ways to contribute value in those subreddits and think of it as researching the people you're interested in promoting to. But never try to actually promote or sell on Reddit. There is very little patience for that there.

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      That is what I'm thinking of transitioning to. Build awareness and test my market verticals - who is most hyped.

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    Guilty here

    I have the same thought as you Daniel when I first started and I eventually just did it on one of the most popular subreddit for my niche without regard for their rules

    Long story short, my post topped first before it got banned due to self-promoting.

    I got a lot of feedback before the post went back down and I learned my lesson that we should provide value before self-promoting.

    It's like a salesman approaching you to buy one of their products without explaining it and even if they do, you can politely say no.

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      I may be biased but I do try to provide value. My product inherently generates a lot of intrigue and so I either 1) try to entertain or 2) try to say how it impacted my life and why it would be helpful for others. I would only link when people asked where to buy it ... but still get banned :(

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    I've just learned this, on Reddit self-promotion is anything that links to your own content. You need to do a text post instead

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      So what would be your process to convert interested individuals? I am getting better at being less sales-y but I need a conversion at one point or another.

      I may have just had terrible luck recently because I would post videos with some text commentary- some not even my own videos- and would get removed for just the video alone.

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            No problem!! Reddit is tough. I got in trouble in r/podcasting this weekend for posting a link.

            2 weeks before that my article went viral there.

            I'm providing value and they're preventing that because I'm "self promoting"🙄

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      Yeah that's what I'm tweaking for. Eventually I'll get the formula or find the right community.

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      Anything that you noticed from those that don't get removed/banned? Those that do well?

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          Have you tried HN? I had one get traction but the rest got instantly taken down - maybe because I posted again too soon.

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