On WIP.chat, a new member asked the following:
To the fathers and mothers here - how do you manage your day with a full-time job, kids and your side-projects?
Not sure how many people we have here dealing with this situation but would love to know your approach on that. Here are some questions in my mind: How do you keep up the motivation for your side-projects? When do you work on your side-projects? Tools that help you to manage your time? etc.
Since I sort-of qualify, I decided to answer. Ended up writing this and thought someone else could find valuable, or be good some food for thought.
Hey Tobias!
I'm not 100% qualified to answer this, since, I do have kids, but my full-time job is my side-project. I have managed to save enough cash and saved it in bitcoin at the right times, so I can do without a paycheck for a long time.
At the same time, I have an almost-2-year-old toddler, no family to help, and a very busy wife who runs her own business. So on any given week my child, Alana, will take about a full-time job worth of time and, specially, energy.
Since COVID started I have dedicated all my non-parenting time to my project #perspectiva which, even though it hasn't officially launched yet, it's doing quite well and has many paying customers.
With that background, I hope the few tidbits I can provide are of some help:
The basis of my framework is: my time with my daughter is precious. My time with my wife is a delicacy, and my reading time is insanely prized. Which leads to:
No wasting time on things that might be slightly beneficial. No using time to go a crazy infrastructure rabbit hole. No unnecessary early optimizations.
This doesn't mean, ship a shitty product. Quite the contrary: you don't have the time margin to ship a shit product and, if it starts picking up interest fix it during a marathon 48-hour no-sleeping session.
No, it means REDUCE the scope of your project. Dramatically.
And then reduce it again.
Also, choose what you'll be working on extremely carefully. Before working on #perspectiva, I was working on #derivex, because I knew there was a crazy profitable market there. It was a trading platform for bitcoin derivatives.
I had it already 50% programmed as a freelance job I got paid for some time ago, so I just needed it to make it a lot better and then get customers. Long story short: I did get customers but I didn't quite like working with them, so decided against launching past the private launch with ~20 customers.
Cutting your losses early is a critical skill (see Seth Godin's book The Dip for more on this).
Which yields:
My #perspectiva customers are people working on becoming better versions of themselves. They want to grow, to see what they do wrong, confront it and improve.
I fucking love that.
Focusing on building with and for people you really like will mean that customer support becomes PLAY. It will mean that when you are building a feature you can think of a particular customer who will love it.
I love doing CS with my customers. I literally laugh out loud when exchanging emails with them.
I think if you focus on this rule, you won't need extrinsic motivation. No tricks. No tweaks. You'll just do it because you want to.
About managing your time. This is what I personally do and have found that works well:
For example, for the past couple of weeks I decided to move away from product dev in a structured manner (I could write more about this if you are interested in this bit) and put some focus on the marketing side of things.
As a dev, and as an introvert, I have always shyed away from marketing and most of my projects I either delegated entirely marketing or the project failed.
Now what I do is make sure that all things I do will pay off in multiple ways. If you look for the ways, is very easy to align marketing with either video production, or improving copywriting skills, exploring your social self by interacting with more strangers online.
Write now, as I explore what I learn in these marketing pushes, I'm documenting every little thing I do and putting it on a book I plan to launch (not-active-yet mailing list form: https://book.pablof7z.com/). This moves the needle forward on:
I know. I know. It'll sound like I'm speaking from my bias, but it's REALLY easy to fall down all types of traps in indie-hacking, which will destroy your productivity.
As a parent, you just can't afford to spend 2 hours playing with your CSS to make the rounding of a button just right. You just can't do that. So you need to make sure that, when you fall down a productivity sink, you NOTICE it.
And, at least for me, the only way to notice I've spent a bunch of unproductive time is to journal every single day.
You don't need to use my app for that, I'm just saying what has worked for me and might work for you.
Hope this help. Obviously, I am passionately about this, so glad to help if you have more questions.
PS. This text might be full with typos. I might be making a manipulative play on I'm-a-parent-too-busy-to-edit or maybe it's just past midnight and would rather go to sleep instead of firing up Grammarly.
For my book I will edit and run it through Grammarly and some proofreaders! You've been warned!
The key for me is waking up before my son does to work on a side project. That way, no matter what happens during the day I know I've made progress. Plus, doing something productive is a great way to start the day. I wrote about this idea here: https://entrepreneurialparent.substack.com/p/waking-up-early-changes-your-life
In terms of motivation, it's important to think about why you're working on a side hustle in the first place. Are you working just to work or is there something bigger behind the pursuit? Your "why" -- if it's important enough -- will propel you out of bed in those early morning hours before baby wakes up.
Oh, I could really use some advice on time management since I don't have time for anything. I think that the hardest part about being a parent is to pay enough attention to your kid and don't assume that all the gifts from kickstarter can replace your care and love. I often forget about that, unfortunately. But I try to spend all my free time with my daughter, even though I barely have it.
"You are not Lazy, you're just not that interested" - Gary Vee - I think
I agree with all of this. really on point.
The bit i want to highlight though is on motivation.
*** IF you find yourself struggling to "MAKE" time to do your side project then it is not the right project for you, especially in the long term.
If it's feeling laboured or forced then drop it. It's either not the right project or not the right time.
I was a serial side project guy for years. 7 years ago, i had a 1yr old, I was working 14hr days, 4 days week, I was up 2-3 times a night with the baby and I would still "FIND" time to work on my side project because it was just another one of my loves.
For the last 3 years, when arguably I had way more time and sleep I just couldn't make myself work on any projects, no matter how promising i thought the space was.
If a side project takes off you'll be doing it for years and there will be many many many hard times. If you have to force yourself in the early days then there is bugger all chance you'll make it in the long run. If it's the right project at the right time then you'll actually want to push through the hard bits, you'll just show up and do the work. You wont really have to force yourself.
that's my 2 cents anyway, for what it's worth.
Easy,
Night time, when every on sleeps.
Day time, if some one is at work / school...
Been doing it for 2 years ...its ok and I run 3 side projects.
Thanks Pablo. I think the same advice applies to people who are parents, full time job too. The trick for me is I realise I have no hope of getting much done per week but what I can do is this:
Research, read, do micro experiments. Prefer nano MVPs over products. I’m talking about a survey or JAQ in a forum etc. put up a carrd page, or reach out on twitter.
Once I have something I can place a time “bet” on there are some options:
2 . Weekend hackathon (arrange someone else to help with parenting, partner or family etc.)
Use holiday
Unpaid leave, which essentially is like 1 but if it is important for the “founder”’to do it rather than delegating this might be better. Eg market research or selling vs. coding or design.
Don’t learn anything too new. Use the tools you use at work. PHP at work? Then PHP at home etc. I’m always trying to fight myself not to use something shiny. Gotta know NEXTJS and GraphQL after all right!
That’s my thoughts on it:.