Landing Page Feedback July 11, 2020

Post your landing page and I will give feedback in the form of a video

Ryan Wilson @rywils21

Inspired by @orliesaurus giving me feedback on my landing page as a video, I want to do the same for the community!

I'm not a marketing or landing page expert. I will give my honest thoughts as a random person landing on your page. When we are building stuff, it's easy to think it makes sense because we have all the ideas in our heads. When someone lands on your page, they don't have any of those ideas of what you're building. It's humbling to see someone point out what's confusing.

Post your landing page below and I will make a screen recording using loom and give my honest thoughts. I'll post the loom link for your page in a reply 😊

Try to post only the link without a description. That will help with a more honest review because I won't have an idea of what it is when I get to your landing page.

EDIT: Thank you so much for all of your submissions! I have made a ton of videos and am going to not reply to any new comments here submitted after 12pm July 12 Central Standard Time. If you really really want me to make a video for you and didn't get a chance to submit a comment, please connect with me on Twitter and DM me and I'll send it to you there.

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    It would be great if you can review our page → (It's a logo maker)

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        @rywils21 thanks that's very helpful!

        (We're A/B testing a new homepage right now, that's why you get 2 differents versions! The utm is from IH i guess. )

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        Thx for the awesome feedback @rywils21
        I will definitely implement your suggestions. Sometimes you just need a view from the outside to get clarity in your own view again. :)

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          Absolutely, glad it was helpful :)

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      Hey @SirMarkly, I am just curious. When you get a bunch of people using your "tip" for one specific stock, doesn't that mean it will actually change the result? I am far from the expert, it's just something that sounds logical to me.

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        Hi @DanielK_CZ,

        Yes, any investment method has to contend with the fact, that market participants move the markets.

        Simply put, each company has a finite amount of shares, and sufficiently large investments would transform the prices at which these trade, and hence invalidate historical data.

        The argument is well known, and valid. Hence, we have strived to avoid it by numerous methods.

        One of these is to ensure that we only use candidates with a reasonable liquidity, that is, trading volume. This is because thinly traded issues tend to be more easily influenced by market demand.

        Another of these methods is to restrict the market capitalization, thus removing all micro-caps shares from consideration, based on the fact, that larger capitalization stocks are influenced less by increased demand.

        These methods notwithstanding, there is a possibility that our investment strategy can affect the market itself when applied in scale, thus reducing actual performance; this is when very large amounts of money are invested with them. Hence, this is one thing we intend to avoid in our practical application. We intend to limit the amount of money invested with our method, to preserve its optimal performance.

        We've done a lot of research on how much capital it takes to start moving the market on our signals, while I won't put a number on it right now. We are far far below that estimate, and so far we have observed no notable market movements from our signals. Given that Weekly Stocktip is mostly aimed towards novice investors, we're not expecting the average user to be investing 10s of millions each week.

        This of course becomes a bigger issue with a hedgefund, and we have been working for over 5 years now, to develop a strategy that is much more diversified and can handle AUM in the billions. This isn't really useable by Weekly Stocktip as it requires the ability to invest 0.001% of your portfolio in a stock, which most people don't have the capital to do (even for a single stock).

        This is a problem we have spent years solving, and isn't a concern for us anymore. Should we ever notice any market movements from Weekly Stocktip we will simply close the signups for any new users.

        Should the hedgefund model performance start dropping below 20% annual return due to market participation, we'll simply stop accepting new capital until we solve it. There's always methods to counteract these things.

        But these are the kinds of problems that are good to have. If you have enough capital to move large and mega-cap stocks... It will have been a strong success, and the need for rapid further growth would be small.

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          @SirMarkly Thank you for the elaborate answer, that makes total sense.

          One more thing. Consider me a novice in trading. I did have some simulated attempts in the past, but never open the account. What I am not getting from your site, how can I actually use those tips? You are talking there about success rates, details, and everything, but I don't see anything like "Getting started". What do I have to do? If I subscribe to your service, how quickly I can open my trading account and start investing?

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            To use the signals all you need is a brokerage account. I use Interactive Brokers, but theres' thousands out there to choose from.

            Once you have an account Weekly Stocktip gives you the information you need to make trades once a week.

            What stock to buy each week, for how much
            and later when to sell it.

            We have a bunch of information on "why" you should buy the stock, but really the only 2 pieces of information you need to understand how to use it. Is what stock to buy, at what price.

            In our SMS signals we simplify that down to a text message like this:

            "Buy GCAP at $5.89"

            GCAP is the "ticker" or "symbol" of the stock you would buy in your brokerage account.

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              Thank you. Just pointing out that what might seem easy for you, might be hard for others. Some guidance on how or where to set up trading account would be useful.

              Also, you mention when to buy and then when to sell. Does that mean you don't do short trades?

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                Yeah, brokers used to be reserved for professionals only, you had to call some one to place a trade.

                Today, especially with modern easy to use "$0 cost" brokers like RobinHood. The barrier to entry to start investing is just owning a smart phone. Setting up an account, typing in the "ticker" symbol, a few numbers and clicking BUY or SELL.

                Knowing what and when to buy and sell is the hard part ;)

                and no, Weekly Stocktip never does Short trades. The are several reasons for this

                Shorts are inherently more risky. The potential return for a short is MAXIMUM 100% return (although that almost never happens), but the potential loss is infinite.

                Shorts are not always available. We do in fact has a strategy that "shorts" stocks and on paper it's successful, however in real-life. All the "obvious" shorts are not possible to buy at all or are simply too expensive.

                Take NKLA for example, from their SEC filings it was obvious to any investor who've done his research that this stock would drop significantly in price, at some point in July. But big institutional investors had already bought up all the short positions available. So while you may have success building an algorithm that can predict stocks that are about to plummet, unlike buying stocks. The availability of shorts are much more limited and the competition is strong.

                Providing short signals that can't be used, would not be a good user experience, and it's inherently a lot more risky than buying high quality profitable companies with consistent growth rates.

                We much prefer sound investment principles over short-term speculation.

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        Wow Ryan!

        Thank you so much for that actionable feedback, that is SUPER helpful!

        Will definitely do a better job at describing exactly what we do sooner!
        We're currently working on a Strategy page that describes in detail how we pick the stocks, and maybe we'll move some of the stats/risk over to that page :)

        The "why" we would sell it has a SaaS product is the hardest question and hurdle for us to get over. Obviously we know our product should REALLY be a hedgefund and not a cheap subscription service at this point... and we are working on it... But starting a hedgefund is no walk in the park, we estimate between finding the right people, getting the appropriate licenses, and the first capital round it will take us at least 2-3 years to have a hedgefund up and running. We've been using our product in our own portfolios for years, but that doesn't satisfy a potential investor. So we built Weekly Stocktip, not as a core business, but with the purpose of giving away our tips for a ridiculously low price, to build up a good reputation and an undeniable public track-record, so when we do eventually have the fund up and running we can show investors just how successful not only we've been, but our subscribers have been.

        Actually we're losing money selling this for $29/week, the data costs alone for the algorithms are so much more expensive.

        Do you think it's worth trying to explain this to potential customers? It's a rather complex topic basically saying this product isn't "really" what we want to build, and we might switch to a fund model in a few years which will be a lot more expensive and only for accredited investors. We have a hard time with this one, since it answers the question for why we're giving it away so cheaply, but raises a lot of other questions and it's not all "positive", even though it has nothing to do with how well our signals actually perform.


        also for the 1 week trial vs 1 week money back guarantee. The reason we structured it as a money back guarantee is that we're not a day-trading system. It's a longterm value investing strategy. In term of a single week there's about a 48% chance on average that the stock tip we picked will be in the "negative" vs the "positive". We don't want to be judged on the performance of 1 stock over a single week, but the performance of many stock picks over a period of months.

        I feel if we provide a Weekly Trial with not credit card requirements. People will be less committed and base their judgement more on how the performance is the first week of whatever signal and you probably won't actually invest anything during your trial.

        On the other hand if you've done your research and believe the system will work, and paid $29 for it, I "think" you are more likely to actually invest something to get your $29 worth, and then more likely to stick with it, rather than just dismissing it as "oh the signal dropped 0.3% this week, it doesn't work".

        Would love to know your thoughts on this!

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          Wow, I'm glad the feedback was so helpful!

          Everything you say makes a ton of sense. I'm 100% with you on not making the first week free, now. But I think you need to explain on your page what you just explained about how it's a long-term stock picker. You said it's not a day-trading system, but looking at your landing page there isn't really a mention of the timeline that the returns come from.

          So I'm thinking maybe on your list of historic picks, you should have bought at, sold at, and days held. That will help communicate that this is a long term thing.

          It's really difficult to communicate the value of a long term thing in a week. I'm kinda thinking that even with the $29/wk investment, if someone doesn't see results in that first week and they are expecting them, they are gonna have a bad time.

          As for the SaaS vs. Hedge Fund argument, I would explain that you're doing this for public relations, you're losing money on it, and something something along the lines that you're a startup.

          Something I think you should take an honest look at here is outside investors. If starting a hedge fund costs a lot of money and takes a lot of time but is the ultimate end goal, that's something an outside investor could help with. They could basically get you there as fast as possible so you could put your algorithms to work and get the most bang for your buck.

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            Thanks Ryan! Again super helpful!

            I've put some more of these pointers on my todo list!

            This is some of the best feedback we've ever gotten.

            Sadly the hedgefund thing isn't a money problem. We are "self-funded", but we don't need capital for anything. Starting a hedgefund in the USA, just isn't something you can "just" do, no matter how much capital you have.

            Starting a hedgefund costs about $30-$50,000 in legal fees for the documents. We have the money, what we don't have are the licenses required to start and run one.

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              So glad I am able to help :)

              That makes a lot of sense about the hedge fund stuff. Trying to think of ways to innovate around that but I don't know enough about the space.

              Anyway, it seems like you've got something really great! Best of luck and if you want me to review again in the future feel free to contact me.

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      This is really awesome! I'm gonna use this in the future.

      Here's the video of me going through it:

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        Thanks, Ryan! Glad you found it useful.

        Your feedback is super insightful.

        Looking at the main headline now, I agree that not many people would know what Open Graph really is so it's important to make the messaging clear and I like your suggestion 👍

        I've been thinking of putting the result page above the fold for a while but I'm struggling to stitch all the info together. Glad that you gave me the same suggestion, feels like a pat on my back telling me "just do it already".

        I made this site free for people to use. Currently, I'm still working on adding more features that would be helpful like

        • Word checker
        • Check up to 5 websites instead of just 1
        • etc

        The site is gaining traffic right now (pretty surprising for a single-page app) so I'm pretty excited to work on it.

        Might look to see if I could package this and provide a paid plan in the future.

        Hope I could return the favor next time 🙏

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          I'm glad it was helpful :)

          I think you're getting traffic because this is one of those things people generally don't much about, but really care how their sites appear on social media. So once they realize this is how you control those cards, it's really valuable.

          One suggestion is start exploring the paid tier stuff now. You can always add features after setting up paid plans. You could try a model where people get one free submission per month, then need an account to do more.

          Or you could create Pro features that are behind the paid tier. The problem with that, is that people won't get to try those features out which might be what is needed to convince them to upgrade.

          Now that I'm typing this out, I'm thinking you should also maybe create a short pdf on what this stuff is, why it matters, etc. - like the bottom half of your landing page and use that to start collecting email addresses. If you're already getting traffic, you can start building a list so if you ever do go the paid route, you can quickly get feedback from interested people.

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            Just to keep you posted on the progress I'm doing. I did a tiny update on the copy/headline based on your initial feedback :)

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            Love the suggestion to start exploring paid tier stuff and also building an email list to quickly get feedback.

            Ah ha.. creating freebies content related to open graph/meta tags and start collecting email addresses is a good idea.

            That could probably be my first priority and when that's up, I'll prep the features and explore the paid tier.

            I've also been thinking of what you said earlier regarding above the fold content which I'll look into as well.

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        Hey thanks so much for the review! I absolutely agree with all of your comments.
        There are also arrows next to the pc image to scroll through the different tiers of data science machine builds. But, I need to enhance the UX, so that every visitor can easily see and understand that as well. Thanks again!

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    I would love to hear your opinion on Howitzer: Reddit Marketing Made Easy.

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        Thank you very much!
        Amazing review and really helpful feedback.

        Also, I have a question.
        Which feature would be the most important (for you), and which one the most "unnecessary" ?

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          You're welcome!

          Most important to me would be scanning subreddits and notifying when a relevant post pops up. Some way to make it smart other than just keywords, too. I've tried keyword scanning tools and you get a lot of irrelevant stuff even on relevant keywords.

          Least important, auto-messaging. I really don't want to ever come across as using an automated message system. It's a bad look for the personal brand I'm trying to build.

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    Hey @rywils21 hope I'm not too late for the roast.

    I am working on a product and it is still super-early but an early feedback can be very helpful. More importantly would help me in understanding if I am heading in the right direction.

    Have a look at the landing page, see if you understand what it is for, if this not self-explanatory then I'll go back to my drawing board and will make it better.


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        That was fast! thanks @rywils21 I am adding the details, credibility and FAQ sections as you review it. The one you saw was deployed 1 min before you reviewed it :) Thanks a ton!!

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          Oh yeah, trying to keep on top of these lol

          You're welcome! Glad to help :)

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    Hey, I would love to hear your thoughts on my page. It's more of the onboarding page at this moment, but that should be fine.

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        Thank you very much, Ryan. Very useful feedback, especially about describing a problem. I will certainly incorporate something like that.

        Illustrations are from The first one is indeed a bit strange as it's called grandma so it's more about family love. I wasn't able to find a better one there.

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          You're welcome! Glad to help.

          Totally understandable. Undraw is great for getting started and I feel like most people won't dwell on it like I did since they aren't reviewing it trying to give feedback :)

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    Hey @rywils21! I recently updated my landing page and I'd love some feedback or your first impressions.

    Any suggestions/feedback is welcome!


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        Awesome thanks Ryan! You're the second person to have pointed out that I need to focus more on the customer pain point/problem.

        I really appreciate the feedback! Thanks again

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          No problem! You're welcome 😊

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        Thanks you are great!

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    Our website is still in beta, but we would love the feedback;

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      Hmm, I just got a 404 when I tried to go here

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        Ah.. don’t now what went wrong there but here is the good link;
        Thanks and if you don’t have time anymore then that’s fully understandable 🙌🏼

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          The .nl domain didn't work either, but this one did. Here you go!

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            Thank you a lot Ryan, I really appreciate and value your feedback!! If there is anything I can help you with let me know :)

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              You're welcome! I'm glad it was helpful :)

              Thank you! I may reach out to you in the future 😊

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    Wow, Ryan! That would be great!
    Https:// please

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        Thank so much Ryan! I’ll work on it this week :)

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    I just want to say that I watch a few moments from some of the videos and you give some thoughtful and useful feedback!

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        Thanks Ryan. Appreciate you taking the time!!! Super helpful pointers

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    Here you go, Ryan! Take your time, I know it's a tough job, but I am very excited to see what you have to say about my landing page :)

    Have a great weekend!

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        Thanks, there is one problem, the sound is lost at about 1:09

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          Oh gosh, I'm really sorry about the audio :(

          My internet has been on the fritz and goes down like once an hour. I think that happened during this and since loom uploads the video as you record it didn't handle the network going out properly.

          The big message I was saying was to include the "who you are" on the landing page instead of having people click out to that and to feature a resource for beginners above all of the sections of content.

          Would you like me to try to redo it?

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            Well, I guess sometimes unexpected happens. Anyway, thanks for the initiative, I see you have done a lot of reviews, so you deserve an applause. You don't have to redo it, as you offered it for free and it costs your time. I may be interested in reviewing another page later. Do you offer such reviews as a service or it just a one time offer?

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              This was just a one time thing as a nice thing to do. Happy to do another page totally for free, especially since the audio cut out here. Just DM me on Twitter or something!

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        Thanks for your review!!

        We'll change our website soon and this feedback is pretty helpful to make the correct changes 👏

        You're awesome :)

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          You're welcome! Glad it was helpful 😊

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        This was mega helpful. Thank you so much!

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    If you still have some time, here is my website,

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    It would be really helpful if you can take a look at this. Thank you so much in advance!

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        Thanks a lot! Very helpful!

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        @rywils21 just wanted to let you that we revamped our landing page thanks to your feedback (the URL is still Thanks again!

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    Would you mind sharing your feedback on:

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        Thanks a lot! Appreciate it!

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        Thanks for your review and tips! It is always great to see someone going through your website for the first time.

        But man, that was a lot of workload for you with all those requests. You are awesome! :)

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          You're welcome! I'm glad it was helpful :)

          That was a ton of work, but I got through it 😅

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        How good, Ryan. Thank you so much!

        I agree with you, I should tell them why... I guess is something to think about now. Ia agree, maybe the colour change is a bit too much...

        Thank you so much for doing this, I really appreciate it.

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          For sure! Happy to help :)

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    Hi, Ryan! I will be glad to hear feedback!

    Thank you!

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        Thank you, that's nice to hear your opinion.
        We continue working on our product :)

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          Awesome, good luck!

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    I'd love to listen from you on this. Thanks!

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        Thanks Ryan, That was a great feedback and I'll work on it. Thanks again

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        Yeap, the niche is small, and for me personally it's a side project where I have the chance to play with different tech (React - that's why everything feels snappy and other frontend UI & UX experiments). Plus i am a phone freak.
        The stats are all based on users timelines (currently about 16k users).

        MOwned = mobiles owned (also playing with the word "owned")

        Unfortunatelly the audio cut off from min 2:56 :(..

        Thanks man!

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          That's awesome! It's a really nice app. I had no idea people were so interested in phones!

          Really sorry about the audio... I think I wasn't close enough to the microphone

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            No problem, regarding the audio, i think something else may be the issue, because the sound stopped sporadically.

            Regarding phones, i don't know if you are familiar with xda-devlopers, but there are many passionated people for tweaking the software / rooting. So there is that, more like a passion :P

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              Hmm, my internet has been cutting out for like 1 minute every hour since they came and did service on it. It may have been that since loom uploads as you record.

              I'm not familiar with XDA but I have heard of people rooting phones. It's really awesome that niche exists! It's one of those things I never would have expected or thought of

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                Yea, people can have "strange" passions :)

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        Thaaaaaaanks a lot for the feedback. Will work on this in the near future. I thought about some things already but thanks for pointing it out again. Is validating my ideas and thoughts.

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    This is going to be a lot of videos... here's mine:

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      I'm really sorry, I don't speak the language that this page is in. I made a video on the visual aspects, though:

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        Hey thank you anyway. I appreciate it! ;)

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    Hi! Here's my startup's:

    Thanks so much!

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        Ooh I just noticed this now! Really appreciate it!

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    If you still have some free cycles, I would be tremendously grateful for your feedback.

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        Thank you Ryan, much appreciated! I will keep your feedback in mind for the final version.

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    would really appreciate some feedback ✌️

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        Thank you! Will definitely follow your advice!

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    Thank you! Looking forward to hear your feedback!

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        Thank you so much for reviewing it!
        Your comments make so much sense and are incredibly helpful. I'll get started improving it 💪😁

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          Awesome! You're welcome 😊

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    Awesome, thank you for doing this!!

    Here is mine:

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        thanks so much Ryan!!

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        Super helpful, thanks Ryan.

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    I got great feedback from @orliesaurus (Still improving based on his feedback)

    Could you please give feedback on my project ?


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        Thank you for great feedback!

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      I tried it and got access denied. It says Error 1020

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        Sorry, our bad. We were setting up firewall and messed up. Now it's working fine. (Thanks for letting us know)

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      I also reviewed your landing page. Two or three things I noticed when I landed your landing. Thanks, Ryan starting this post.

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        Thank you Kayd! I appreciate your positive feedback :)

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        Thanks for jumping in! This is awesome

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        Thanks Ryan! This is super helpful, thanks for doing this :)

        If you do try it out, definitely let me know and I can help you out with anything you might need!

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      Hi, which no code tools did you use to design this website?

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        Hey - I actually coded it with Next.js, React, and Tailwind.

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          The super stack :) I use this everywhere now

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      Nice product. I would like to add my one cent here. Hope it helps

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        If you need help or information about Dorik. Please feel free to send me a message.

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        Thank you so much for your review. I'm testing different headings already.

        Performance: We are gonna optimize the performance before launch. everything is not compressed and cached robustly yet. But it will be 90+ always. :-)

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        Thank you so much for the review. We are gonna update the homepage this week. And we are planning to improve most of the issues you have mentioned. :-)

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          Awesome! You're welcome :)

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    Would love to hear your feedback. After each feedback am getting great value :D

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        hey man, great feedback thank you very much :)

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      I'm just getting "This site cannot be reached" :(

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            @rywils21 thank you so much this is extremely valuable and interesting to get perspective from someone who has no idea what this is about.

            Main takeaways:

            • we need to emphasize on the fact that yes, the outreach that happens here is 100% personalized (even Humanized!)
            • hand-holding sounds too negative
            • how does it work : make it its own section
            • make it more graphic overall

            thank you sir, happy to help you now since you've never done anything sales related if there's an interest :)

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              Super happy to help! :)

              Thank you! I may reach out in the future if I ever get there.

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    Thanks for doing this!

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        Wow, this is really enlightening Ryan! I'll be reflecting on this a lot as I plan out some homepage improvements. Really appreciate you taking the time.

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          For sure! Someone else did it for me and it was so helpful. I'm glad this helped!

          Feel free to reach out if you want me to do it again after you make changes.

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    Hi, Ryan! Would be cool if you can take a look at:

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        Ryan.. wow! You are really good at this.

        I needed this feedback so much. I kinda knew that info on the landing page doesn't make sense for anyone except me, will work on it.

        A Landing page is like a joke – it's bad if you need to explain it.

        Thank you very much!

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          You're very welcome! That's a good analogy, haha. There's also an art to making it super scannable because no one is gonna read a single paragraph you put on there.

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          You're welcome!

          Right on, you've got a really cool product. I'm excited to see more things like yours come about across all types of domains.

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          Great! I totally understand not putting in the screenshares until they were done. I've done that myself!

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