This is a riff of @steveprocter Domain Club idea he shared as a reply to this post here on Indie Hackers.
I own a lot of domains. Most of them are impulse purchases. I come up with an idea, I think of a cool name for it, I find a domain, and if it’s a good one I have an urge to buy it. Sometimes I resist it, but most of the time I fail.
Unfortunately, most of these domains end up sitting on my virtual shelf. Each year, when the time comes to renew them I have an internal debate if I should or should not pay more for them. I lie to myself, that I’ll do something with it and I renew it.
I’ve tried to sell some of these domains but all the websites I’ve come across are selling domains for thousands of dollars. Some get sold, but the majority just keep sitting there creating no value whatsoever.
This led me to a question: how can I create value with my shelved domains?
Here’s the answer I came up with.
💡 Idea
An online club where people can bid on domains. But there’s a twist - you bid with ideas, not with money. The community votes on your idea. The person with the most votes gets to buy the domain. There’s a cap on the price, so people can actually buy them.
🐣 Idea genesis
Creating value with shelved domains
I like domains because they are a nexus for an idea. When I share them with people, they are almost like a riddle. Noob.so - hmm what could that be? Cleanup.social, Pseudo.so - if you’re like me, your wheels are spinning with ideas.
Why not encourage a community to brainstorm over a domain name. The domain becomes an anchor for the conversation and the community can go wild with what they’d build with it.
If you can tie this to the actual ability to buy the domain, I think you have a fun game people can play and get motivated to start a new business.
🔥 Problem
- People have lots of shelved domains from impulse purchases. These domains sit there and are of no use to anybody.
- People want inspiration for their next venture (it’s the reason you are signed up for this newsletter).
- There is a big community of people that hone their ideation skills by brainstorming in public. I’ve had multiple encounters with you - my readers on Twitter just riffing off each other’s ideas.
- Domains are a great nexus for ideas.
🧯 Solution
- A marketplace that lets people list their shelved domains and sell them to people that want to build something with them.
- People bid on listed domains by submitting an idea, the community votes on the best idea.
- The winner of the most votes gets to buy the domain.
- Domains have a cap on their price so sums don’t get prohibitive for people to buy.
- The cap should be calculated by a formula taking into the account purchase price and maybe years of ownership.
💵 Possible Monetization Streams
- Revenue share with the seller.
- Paid community.
👍 What are the benefits?
- You can sell your shelved domains with a purpose.
- You can buy domains and get an initial idea validation from the community.
- You can just lurk and get inspired.
🤑 Are people currently spending money on this?
- People are spending money on ideas (paid newsletters, idea databases, etc).
- People are buying domains.
✅ What do I need to validate?
- Are people willing to list their shelved domains for a capped price?
- Are people willing to bid with ideas?
🧰 How I'd validate?
- Build a prototype using no-code tools:
- You’ll need a domain submit form (Google Form).
- You’ll need a website to list the domains & let registered people submit ideas and upvote. Here’s a guide on how to do that with Webflow.
- A checkout page to purchase the domain (this can be done manually with Gumroad, to begin with).
- You can automate this by building a full solution using Webflow, Jetboost, and Memberstack. Nocode.mba has a great course on this here.
🤔 How will I get first 10 customers?
- Directly reach out to people that are active makers (find them on Indie Hackers, Twitter). They are very likely to have shelved domains. Ask them if they’d be interested in doing a sale in your club.
- Pitch this idea on Indie Hackers and Twitter, get people to sign up pre-launch to gauge interest.
- Be active and valuable in the usual indie maker communities (Indie Hackers, r/startupideas, Twitter...).
📈 Will it be sustainable?
- This is both a marketplace and a community play - it’s kind of like Product Hunt meets eBay. You’ll need to work hard on both aspects.
- The good news is that a thriving community will generate demand.
- It’s also likely that people that are there to buy will later be there to sell (and vice-versa).
- You can tie in a lot of cool things on top of this:
- A weekly newsletter with top ideas.
- An active community for people to post updates on what they did with the purchased domain.
- A podcast to talk with people that bought a domain and are successful with it.
- Bundle this into a paid community for extra income etc.
👉 Am I the person to build this business?
- If you like coming up with ideas.
- If you are willing to put in the work to find sellers and purchasers (the latter will be more difficult because of fewer incentives).
- If you have some experience or are willing to learn quickly about building and maintaining online communities (here’s a good podcast on why it’s not as easy as it sounds).
Btw, I share ideas like this one in my weekly newsletter [Ideas to Makers].(https://ideastomakers.com).
I like it, it's basically an idea marketplace. People list domains they have and the idea for each. If someone has another idea they can propose it as well, and the voting would allow some basic validation.
If someone likes an idea they can buy the unused domain at some defined maximum cost. The focus would be on exchanging ideas, not making a lot of money.
Overall, this would increase the chance the project gets realised - either from the original owner after he realises people are interested in this, or from someone else.
One quick downside - people owning domains will get ideas for them and use them themselves.
Yes, but there are so many ideas you can't work on all of them. Either way, this increases the chance that the idea gets realised & the domain gets reused. I want more useful projects in my life.
no! see my reply above. as entrepreneurs we are all collaborators by default. I am a great venture architect, hacker and builder, but I am crap at selling. I want partners in the game!!
Actually you are of course right - there are dodgy people who will steal ideas, but frankly we cannot let that stop us otherwise we wouldn't get out of bed in the mornings.
A bit similar discussion on flipping domains:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Entrepreneur/comments/8tvht6/flipping_domains/
I'm down for this idea! Sounds fun!
What would you do with the picc.io domain?
Flickr reborn. I really miss a community of photographers posting pictures, having access to the picture’s meta data and geeking out with other photographers.
That's interesting, my initial idea was to do something on the lines of imgur
but imgur is so ingrained in peoples heads its hard from them to try something new. For instance. When I look on reddit anyone who posts an external image its always to imgur never the other image file sharing alternatives.
I never thought of the photographer community. Flickr, what was it about the metadata that made it different than say imgur? I will have to offer a unique feature that differentiates it from the other image services. How could I make it that photographers can "geek out" as you say?. I need to find the magic sauce for this idea :)
There's a bunch of EXIF data (aperture, exposure time, iso, type of camera, lense, etc.) that give you an idea of what the photographer was working with, what technique they used. I logged back to Flickr just now and it looks like they've saved it from the times it was owned by Yahoo and full of ads. But maybe there's still an opportunity there. You should talk to some photographers. I could imagine a way you could combine photo hosting with an easy way to monetize their portfolio. Allow them to sell prints, sell courses...
Actually there is a problem here. You see, on IH we are all entrepreneurs and the true definition is someone who is as excited by someone elses ideas as your own.
So I list my domains, we have a debate and vote on great ideas to make good use of them. Assuming one of those ideas is good then rather than sell the domain name for pennies, I want some skin in the game. Lets call the domain my initial buy-in.
And in fact, isn't this one of the core values of IH? We come here not just to shout about our own ideas, but to find co-founders and partners. A domain name is just one of the things we can use as a hook to start a conversation and base an idea around.
So lets kick it off. Here are my currently unused domains - lets throw around some ideas, get the juices flowing and see where we get. Happy to see others list their domains too...
email.tv
open.ec
scan.ec
together.ec
nearevo.com
venture.cards
lab2.biz
l2o.co
secly.com
scan.click (currently live as a qr code management platform but needs a kick up the wotsit with a big pivot)
Ok, I’ll take a stab at this :)
email.tv - popular newsletters read out loud (video or audio)
open.ec - a database of tactics for improving newsletter open rates
scan.ec - a service for recreating scanned documents (text/graphics) File conversion is a big Fiverr category, maybe it can be unbundled.
together.ec - a niche specific dating site (mountain bikers date mountain bikers)
nearevo.com - newsletter about significant technological and social shifts happening now/very soon
venture.cards - a card game about the VC world. Think exploding kittens, but with VCs
lab2.biz - airbnb for labs
l2o.co - a gated community of CSOs focused on on improving sales process and lead-to-order performance.
secly.com - online resource for protecting your online privacy - where to get started, playbooks, useful apps etc (for beginners)
scan.click - simple QR checkout (scan QR, go to checkout, purchase).
oooh some fabulous ideas there. gosh, I wish I had time for so much of this - time and money is always the killer for people like us with more ideas than hours in the day!!
I would love to keep debating them and other ideas for now and then one day perhaps we can enact them. Or perhaps there is someone else with the time to take them on, with me and others being AWE (advisors with equity)? ;-)
email.tv - "email To Voice" - oh yes I like it. do you know any cool off-the-shelf text to voice tools to use for this?
the qr checkout idea - can you explain this some more? do you mean in a physical shop? or online?
fabulous @ondrej! I don't think anyone has done a riff on anything I've ever said before - I'm flattered ;-)
In return I've just signed up for your newsletter and also added it to my sources list for my new Early Venture Report (https://gum.co/early-venture-report).
Thank you Steve!
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