Hi,
I just published a new landing page and am keen for feedback ...
https://shine.oxyio.com
Is the landing page clear and do you understand what I am offering ?
All comments welcome π
Thanks!
Flashy orange background is too distracting
What does it means? What is better? How faster?
Repetition
Not clear, what does it means? Not an pro dev but I do my own code, and so far I'm not sure to understand what you provide... Ideally you want it to be understandable by beginners or even non-tech people
Too vague... I still have no idea what you offer so far
Ah, here, now I start to get it, you offer pre-made CMS, Blogs etc?
What does it means?
Not a fan of the word features to describe features. The card design is too big for the text inside, you can probably make it smaller:
Based on what calculation? $1000 seems too "round" to be credible
Why wouldn't Heroku be good enough for that?
How? What do you mean? Can you show an example with a screenshot/video?
Hey that is incredible feedback! So useful. It becomes clear, that I am not so clear. I will go through your points and try to work out how to get my message across better & sooner. I think an explainer video would suit but of course they take time to get right as well. Thank you so much! π
Hey you should check Indie Intros for Explainer Videos πΊ
Looks good π
Hey there,
I think that it would help be more specific about the problem you are solving and the solution you bring.
I have left a couple of audio notes on your landing you can listen to on this vero here
Hope that helps,
π€ Cheers,
Ben that's awesome. Thank you very much. I agree with your points. I need to be more specific & especially earlier in the copy. In the end you have managed to understand the gist of it. But I have redrafted and expressed it more from the problems.being solved than the approach being taken. I will republish soon. Many thanks for your time. Very much appreciated.
Great, happy it helped π
"Build Better Saas Faster" and "Shine helps you create richer Saas applications faster" are two similar sentences with changed order of words. The subtitle can say something different I guess.
Also I see a lot of integration is possible and multiple services like payment, blogs, etc are available but nothing shows how it is done. I mean you can just put some pictures of user interface or screenshots of sample api calls. A short demo video would be amazing if you have something ready to show. I felt that you have just put a lot of keywords and no proof of product readiness.
Thank you.
I will upload the docs soon which explain more about how it works and how to use it. They include some Quickstarts + Guides with links to GitHub sample code.
It's a nice idea to include some of the API calls on the landing page. And I agree a short demo video would be great!
I will see what I can do ...
cc Indie Intros π
The body text is hard to read, going from one side of the screen to the other. Too wide.
Try different fonts for the headlines.
Thank you. I will look into layout. I guess you experienced unconstrained responsiveness on a big screen. Thanks for pointing it out! π
Since you ask to roast the page, I am being a little more critical. I'd highly recommend you to find a business co-founder who can write better copy and evolve the business model, MVP etc for you to build a refined product.
Thank you. I will work on the points you raise. Being critical is good and I appreciate your comments. I have redrafted but ultimately as you suggest it may help to find someone else to assist. Thanks for you time.
First of all, congrats on your project! I think if you keep asking for feedback you will do great.
As a developer I need to know if this is a free/freemium/premium/etc service, because I'd base part of my project's infrastracture on Shine and wouldn't risk finding out later that I can't afford it. If I decide to join the waitlist (and possibly delay my deployments), do I get additional benefits?
Last point. We developers are (very!) lazy people. I don't want to write an email to join the waitlist. I'd prefer a form or just leave my email address :)
Good luck πͺ
Thank you. Your comments are encouraging. I am working out the plans and currently it seems tricky to not have a freemium due to competition of other platforms. But we will see. I am to request a roasting of the pricing page later. I will put in a form ;) Thanks again π
I like the layout, but yeah, to many colors
Thanks for the feedback. I will try and tone it down. π
Ill be fast af:
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Thanks for your feedback. I'm going to reduce the colours and to be fair have struggled with the text contrast. I'll try and look up the science. Cheers.
From my understanding, your product is a backend as a service focusing on SaaS. As a developer, what I like about your landing page:
Things that I find a little bit off:
Thank you. You have understood the basic concept yes. So that's good. As you say the Built On Giants is kinda working as a social proof replacement, trying to build trust that the solution is built on dependable scalable infrastructure. I appreciate your help π
What is the dream outcome: Deploy your SaaS in record time, for lowest cost. or. Save X time, and Y $ building your SaaS Project.
Make them believe it: add some sort of social proof.
Make it easy and frictionless: get started for free, no CC' required.
Dream outcome for the developer is to spend 99% of their time focusing on what makes them different and 1% of their time on all the enabling stuff by using the platform. Play with the percentages but that's the gist of it. I need to add a demo and social proof. Thanks for your feedback! Really appreciated.
Congrats on publishing your landing page!!
What I've understood from your landing page: you are solving the problem of wasted time and money that SaaS developers face when building and integrating with common but complicated features e.g. admin interfaces and subscriptions.
These are some of the things I like about your page:
These are some of the things I would change:
Thank you. Yes you've understood the concept correctly. It's a pick and mix collection of services/features to help build your app. Plan is to include 3rd party services as well. From other comments I can see copy is too tech heavy & have redrafted. I'll try and find better fonts. Thanks again!
Glad to be of help Rab!
You need to address the problem you're solving for faster:
Here take a look:
How?
a better version would be
Also as a dev, I don't know if this is just a bunch of kubes spinning up with an API or what
Hi. Thanks for the feedback. As you imply ... too vague. I need to redraft. I will try and find a We solve X using Y kind of phrase. I'll check out some examples. Cheers!
This is backend-as-a-service, right? The front page does a bad job at communicating that. Look at some competing service, like Firebase, Supabase, Appwrite etc.
And uh, I know design is hard, but this also doesn't look appealing.
I think the best advice & feedback you can get is to look at competitors or similar services and use some benchmarks. This is what I do every time. 1. you learn from others and improve 2. you get inspirations for a better approache
Thanks. I looked at some. Maybe not so obvious! But will check out some more. Cheers.
Thanks. Yes I can see it now. I've redrafted some already. My new tagline I think works but I am still searching for a more compelling/concrete title. I'll check out supabase etc. π
Sounds great. Scope of the product is huge - would focus on a specific slice that you can fully demo first (e.g authentication and access control) . Your audience seems to be devs given the tech heavy copy. As such without any evidence of your product working or a github link it will be hard to get anyone to sign up. Think a demo is needed. What do you offer beyond the other platforms out there ? Its hard to get across the USP without being able to show it.
Hey. Thanks. I've had a rethink based on comments. You are right, the copy is too tech heavy. I understand how I got there but need to dial back. I've redrafted talking more about the problem being solved. Agree also about scope being potentially huge & to focus on a small subset. Current olan is to launch with Auth + Billing and look to 3rd parties to come onboard for others.
Firstly isn't it SaaS, not Saas? Also I'm not sure what you're offering, perhaps I'm your exact target audience either. Seems like a dev-ops like of service, like Docker or something to help with deployment. Is it an IDE? Does it work with no-code? Is it AWS integrated? It's not a hosting service, it world appear. Where in the technical stack for instance does this fit? Maybe a diagram would be helpful.
Great feedback. Thank you. π I need to be clearer and will think of a diagram. I would like to provide hosting, but later. Currently you host your app somewhere & your server makes calls to the cloud of services offered. So it's like a backend/cloud of micro-services that can handle authentication, billing, etc. You can come as an app maker or a service provider. If you are interested in trying let me know.
It's easy to understand what you offer. I like also your CTAs. It can be better if you would put pricing section on your page.
Great. Pricing page is drafted. Will be posted soon. Thanks for your feedback. Much appreciated.
It's my pleasure!
If you need a good roasting you can check out roastd.io π₯
Nope not clear.
You first 3 main sections are
1 tells me it is about building a Saas product. Nice.
2 tells me the same thing 1 did. Redundant.
3 tells me nothing. What is cloud native? Was is a Saas dev platform?
Next line 'We run managed instances in the cloud offering SaaS features' is boring. I don't care about managed instances in the cloud.
So in the first 4 main things you have told me nothing about ME. It is all about you.
I would do something like this:
Something like that.
Thanks Josh. I agree and the bit about "nothing about ME" is ironic as I've said that before when reviewing others. I like your suggestions. Have reworked a draft but want to go through all comments slowly to compare. Thanks again. Much appreciated π