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Scale8 - An open-source, privacy-friendly alternative to Google Analytics and Google Tag Manager

https://scale8.com/blog/hello-from-scale8/
submitted this linkon June 6, 2022
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    Hey, I guess I loved your product (at least it's branding), So I was guessing if you allow some kind of deal where I can pay upfront and then allow users of my support portal to use it instead of Google integration. If yes then how much per user guessing I have 100 users.

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      Hi @kanisk, thank you :)

      If you can drop me an email, chris@scale8.com, I will have a chat with the team and see what type of solution we can offer. The platform is completely API driven (GraphQL) so everything in the UI is possible via the API. Depending on your workflow / requirements I'm sure there is something we can do to support you.

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    This looks amazing, congrats on the launch!

    I really hate to self-plug, but if you need a product experience like SuperHuman, I'd love to help.

    You won't ever need to create onboarding guides, help articles, and tutorials.
    I really think searchegg.io is perfect for your app.

    cheers :)

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      Thanks @khalidm3 :)

      I've had a quick look at your product and it could be a great fit. Does it require cookies to store any user data?

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        Hey Chris, I'm glad to hear that! No, it does not.

        I'd be happy to go over it more and answer any of your questions.

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          I have signed up - chris@scale8.com - I'd love to have a quick play around with this :)

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            Sounds good! It's currently dead of night for us here in Seattle (PST), I'll send a followup as soon as I or my founder is up.

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              Not a problem, we're in London, but I'm sure we can find a time to sync.

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    Analytics is such a big deal for me since i really like digging in the numbers. unfortunately due to gdpr GA is so vague and unsecure. Also I am confused because of the hundreds of iterations in the UI and stuff Google made from Analytics. I am really looking forward for a compliant solution that offers the things i need to know.

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      Hi, have a look at Fathom Analytics as a privacy-preserving alternative: https://usefathom.com/ ... I've been using them for over a year and they've been great.

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        We did a comparison with Fathom - https://scale8.com/vs-fathom/

        Development has stalled a bit and I like to think Scale8 has bit more to offer. As a pure web analytics solution it is not too bad compared to alternatives out there.

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      Hey Gabriel :)

      Thanks for your comment. We put out a couple of blog posts around this: https://scale8.com/blog/is-ga-gdpr-compliant/

      And also how to make Google Analytics GDPR compliant: https://scale8.com/blog/how-to-make-ga-gdpr-compliant/

      By default Scale8 will completely anonymise your visitors. We don't track them at all. Installing 3rd parties via our tag manager (injecting someone else's script) could void that, but that is also why included web analytics and JS error tracking with our product. For the vast majority of publishers this is everything they require and also compliant with privacy legislation.

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        That is really really nice! Will look forward to try it in a bit!

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    Really interesting. I can see it replaying Analytics to some degree, but how are you replacing Tag Manager?

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      Hi @zerotousers, we built a tag management platform at the core. It is probably similar to Adobe's offering with events, conditions, exceptions sitting within rules and rule groups, but draws some parallels with Google Tag Manager.

      The tag manager is completely event driven and designed for all modern browsers. It makes use of all the latest browser APIs :)

      We've also included some extra features like Action Group Distributions for AB testing actions. This uses the privacy-friendly approach to unique user detection when selecting a session group.

      Scale8 is open-source, so not only can users contribute to the core functionality, but we've also made it so new platforms can be built and used in the Tag Manager. Everything sits under revision control, so you can upgrade to the latest version of the platform without worrying about a platform developer making a cascading breaking change.

      I tried to include the extra screenshots on here but failed for some reason. They are however a few screenshots posted on our product hunt page (https://www.producthunt.com/posts/scale8).

      A full list of features can be found on our website, although I think we need to showcase what we have built a bit more than what we have.

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      Hi @kingcrimson, we've just gone live with the commercial version, so as of today, just $10 MRR. We'll be documenting our journey and posting regular updates as we grow :)

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    Hi Chris

    I see on Product Hunt that Scale8 is free. Is that correct?
    If you don't mind me asking, what is your business model if you are giving this away for free?

    (I couldn't see a pricing page anywhere either)

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      Hi Andy, Scale8 is absolutely free to host yourself. We thought about offering a free tier for the commercial version and potentially also making it free for charities, but at this point we haven't introduced that. We do however a free 30 day trial with no credit card being required.

      For the self-hosted version we'll be releasing some Terraform scripts soon with support for various cloud configuration options.

      At present we offer a cloud hosted version and you can find the pricing here: https://scale8.com/tag-manager/#pricing

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        thanks so much for the reply.

        Excuse my ignorance, I'm not brilliant with Analytics platforms having only used Google Analytics and only at a surface level, but is that pricing is for the full solution offering or tag manager only with the Analytics component coming for free or an additional cost?

        I'll have a dig around with the self-hosted version now and see whether I could make it work for me. Longer term I'd love to be a paid user if I can make it work (once my products start earning!)

        I love the clean UI btw!

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          "I love the clean UI btw!" -> Thanks :)

          The single price for Tag Manager includes web analytics and JS error tracking. We've got a great roadmap of features coming soon too.

          We've more than happy to help you get set up if you have any problems. It could be worth trying the cloud version (no credit card required) just to test it out for 30 days.