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Startup lesson learned - Don't quit your job before there is interest in your product

This one stings a lot, and not only on the bank-account side of things. The truth is, we started EnVsion because we were just too excited to build something we felt we’d be more passionate about than our sedate but well compensated consulting jobs.

I was also personally itching to build my own thing again. I was not, and I am still not interested in a corporate career 🤷🏿‍♂️.

Read on for more details on our journey.

We should have never quit our jobs so early

When we quit our jobs, we had no product, no well-articulated problem, no customers, no revenue, no audience. Frankly, all these “no”s should have made the decision to quit my job even harder, but I was either too naive or stupid to reconsider. I was supremely confident we were smart enough to figure things out despite this cloud of uncertainty.

But, we were not ready. Because of this glaring lack of preparation, we were just not ready for the torrent of setbacks that hit us on our journey.

Before quitting our jobs, we should have made sure the ground was fertile enough for us to venture into the wild world of entrepreneurship. We should have made sure we had a growing understanding of the problem we were solving, some interest from potential users and customers, and a clear plan of action.

18 months of setbacks

The consequence of all this is that we struggled for over 18 months. During this time we dug into our personal savings to sustain ourselves and the business. We did not pay ourselves a single cent of salary during this period. We hired people to help us build things without having conducted deep enough research. And we didn’t get the hiring right either. Eventually, I had to let these people go either because they were not meeting my expectations or because we could not afford them anymore. It was a huge and costly mistake, and I take full responsibility for it.

These days I also console myself by saying that I did not waste money all this time: I paid for an apprenticeship (or MBA 🙃) in company building.

Because we started on very unsteady ground, we iterated on a lot of business ideas. Some pivots were just very bad ideas in hindsight. Eventually though, we began building what would become EnVsion today.

In between, we unsuccessfully tried to fundraise, after going through the process for over 5 months from Q2 2021. We got close, but didn’t clinch the funding that would enable us to continue pursuing our idea on a full-time basis. During this whole period, product and business development ground to a halt. Failing to raise capital after also putting the company on pause was a crushing blow that felt difficult to recover from.

Additionally, we had reached the point where we were dangerously approaching the red line in our finances. There was no more fuel in our tanks to keep the business going in its current form.

Epilogue - going the bootstrapping way

In the end, it was either we found jobs again or fell into personal bankruptcy. I let you guess which choice we made… We have now gone back to full-time jobs and are currently bootstrapping EnVsion, until we can get back to it in a full-time capacity.

I work on EnVsion early mornings before work and in the evening, plus weekends. I don't consider it a grind at this stage though, because I'm learning a lot along the way. I actually feel very grateful to have the chance and strength to work on this business

This work surprisingly feels more and more like play to me these days. That’s why I carry on.


Thanks for reading this post! I share my learnings and progress while building EnVsion! EnVsion helps UX researchers save time highlighting, clipping, and sharing key moments from user interview videos with their team so that they can build the products their customers will love.

You can also follow my journey on Twitter.

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on April 8, 2022
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    I appreciate you highlighting this Eddie!

    Nobody should leave their full-time job until there are paying customers without massive churn and a sustainable acquisition channel.

    Said another way, don’t leave your full-time job until you have a product that customers like, are willing to pay for and a way of getting more of them.

    For the people wondering; well-thought cold email outreach is almost always the best and cheapest way of getting those first customers. Then you talk to them and build until they love the product. Then you go out and get more.

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      Thanks for the comment Bernard.

      It was a very expensive lesson learned. We were going the VC route and I was very confident we could secure the funds that would let us figure out how to give life to our vision.

      I couldn't be further from the truth. Raising money in Europe feels a lot more difficult than in the US (based on few conversations with US founders, investors, and reading TechCrunch).

      Now I'm focusing on the baby steps for EnVsion: articulate the problem we are solving for our particular niche, market the product, and build just the right set of features to solve our customers problems.

      I'm not going the VC route at this stage. It is hard at times because I work a full-time job too, but ultimately I feel more in control of my company's destiny so the journey is more rewarding this way.

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        You are absolutely right.

        I’m from Europe and started our company there, then I expanded it into the United States. Currently live in New York.

        European VC still feels like private equity. They expect you to build a product, validate product-market-fit and have some revenue before plowing money into to it. In the United States, you can raise money with a working prototype.

        I do believe that the “European way” offers a higher probability of success compared to the model of the United States, but also offers much higher founder-risk. That’s why I advice everyone to get the first product, customers talks and revenue before raising or going full-time.

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          It would seem obvious things, but not everyone understands. Most do not want or do not want to leave their comfort zone and live on the minimum wage or spend everything on a startup and then sit in debt.

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            That's why well-built businesses are so rare. If everyone could make money on a level playing field, there would be no one to work for.

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          Interesting to read that you‘ve experienced the same thing. More EU-based founders going for VC should know about this frankly.

          Despite all the setbacks I faced in the last few hours, I feel very grateful to be learning so much on this adventure.

          Hopefully I can go full time on my company at the end of this year 🤞🏿

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      But what if someone is spending 8-10hrs everyday on job and have only 1-2 hrs left every day and only weekends? Is that time sufficient?

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        Yes, but you have to optimize. That time isn’t sufficient to develop a product, but you can certainly make a detailed description and some wireframes in that time.

        Hire a developer on Lemon.io, Toptal or UpWork to code or help you code the initial product. Then spend the 1-2 hours and weekends on customer acquisition and talking to your customers.

        When that all has been done, then you can consider leaving your full-time position.

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    I am also in the same boat... I have been working on a job and trying to bootstrap VadeLabs. That gives you a slow start but perhaps that is in the best interest of finances as well as risk mitigation.

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      I really like VadeLabs’ landing page :). It looks very powerful. How long did it take you to build all these integrations?

      Do you have a timeline or milestones you want to reach before going full time on the project?

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        Thanks a lot, Eddie! We have been working on this for the last 3 months and currently have integrated GitHub and Twitter. We have been prioritising the integrations as per customer requirements. We have signed a contarct with a customer and shall be working for them.
        As for going full time on my project, I have kept 10K MRR as my milestone. Lets see how fast we can reach there.. Hope for the best

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          Nice!
          Seems you are onto a very good start. Also great that you have a paying customer. That’s so important.
          Best of luck to reach your next milestones and beyond 🙏🏿

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              No worries. If you ever need a platform to store all your sales/user interview calls and create clips of the most important bits hit me up 😉

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