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Understanding who the decision maker is

One of the things I've noticed quite a bit over the years is the end user is often not the decision-maker. The recent demise of Kite, which cited that developers don't pay for their tools as one of the main reasons, reminded me a lot of indie hackers who build for their end-user but rarely target the actual decision-maker.

For me, I'm SaaS boilerplate (https://getparthenon.com) which I'll be pivoting more towards a self-hosted billing system with add-ons. I could target indie hackers like everyone else. But I decided to make it free for indie hackers and focus solely on companies. I want to target startups and enterprises. Which suddenly means the developers and end users of it aren't actually my decision-makers.

The decision maker is the person who can say yes without asking anyone else and authorise the payment.

When I worked for a holiday price comparison site they literally just targeted women. Men go on holiday just like women, but women are generally the decision makers, so why bother with the men when if you sell the women, they'll tell the men what to do?

If you go to an AWS conference, you'll see that most of the talks are aimed at management and non-technical staff. The technical talks are very basic and still are aimed at non-technical people understanding the gist of what is being said. AWS, something that most people think is a technical decision to use, is nearly always decided by non-technical management. So it makes sense that the AWS conferences are mainly focused on them.

For me, if your product is b2b, you need to spend time marketing and building for the managers who will decide if their company uses your product. And often the decision maker might be 2-3 levels abstracted away from the end user.

I think marketing to your end user is also important so they suggest it to their manager, but you need to sell to the manager.

on November 21, 2022
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    Hi @that_guy_iain, thanks for posting this. Maybe a bit off topic, but I'm curious what was your experience selling Parthenon to developers so far?

    I have a similar boilerplate for the Node/JS ecosystem and was considering releasing it as a product. I've put a lot of effort into making it modular, being able to evolve each module independently and install/update these modules into each app.

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      Honestly, I've found it easier to convince non-technical people who are outsourcing their development work than to get developers on board.

      I have a few reasons I think are the cause:

      • PHP developers and especially Symfony developers are less likely to buy these.
      • People need to see the project has some stability. You don't want to build on top of something that will disappear.
      • People spend a lot of time thinking about buying them before they actually buy them. And will spend quite a bit of time researching it.

      Honestly. the Node/JS ecosystem has a bunch of them. Most get sales but I don't think many can afford to fund a developer full-time.

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        Thanks for the insight!

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    Totally agree that you need to make sure you get the decision maker onboard, however finding the champion who wants to use it is also very important. Who would be the champion for your product @that_guy_iain?

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      I think the champions would be devs or more likely business folk. Especially since I'm pivoting to being a self-hosted billing system. Billing is obviously very important. Lots of devs, especially in-house developers would want to build a billing system themselves. But that's very expensive. Many people in the business side want to just outsource the billing because it's basically cheaper to buy than build. There would obviously be developers who won't want to go near a billing system and would rather use an pre-built tool so would champion it.

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    Interesting. But when we talk about tools used for developers, I don't think your target is managers. Most of the best tools we use in our company today was brought by a developer who used it in a given moment of their life.

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