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What controversial opinions do you have?

I would hope that this thread leads to a better understanding of the perspective of others, and does not degenerate into two sides hurling invective at each other. Please:

  • Share your controversial opinion, and the reason you arrived at that opinion.
  • As always on IH, be respectful of each other!
on February 22, 2022
  1. 17

    It's okay to work on projects that don't make any money, as long as you enjoy that time.

    Go ahead, lampoon me! 😂

    1. 3

      Would double upvote if I could!

    2. 1

      I agree. It's better to be doing that than wasting time consuming a copious amount of content. Even if you make no money on it. I'm sure you'll be learning lots of things for another project in the future.

    3. 1

      That's actually a pretty smart and practical advice

  2. 16

    PHP is awesome.

    1. 4

      This is 100% true

    2. 4

      🤣 you made my day 🤣

    3. 3

      Been using PHP since 1999 and love it. Did 6 languages prior to that. I will never bother learning another. Php and mysql all the way!

    4. 2

      When I learnt PHP I found my understanding of Java increased at the same time, i guess because of them both being object oriented

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      This comment was deleted 4 years ago

  3. 12
    • Ideas matter.
    • Subscriptions are a rip-off.
    • Brilliant marketing with shitty products is capitalism's cancer.
    1. 2

      Brilliant marketing with shitty products is capitalism's cancer.

      Or maybe it is not capitalism's cancer., but rather the outcome of weak minds? Meaning people are not willing to spend a moment longer to think about the proposition?

    2. 1

      Lol. The 2nd point will offend pretty much all SaaS founders. 🤭

  4. 11

    Very few "marketers" are good at "marketing".

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      "marketing takes day to learn and years to master"

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      This comment was deleted 4 years ago

  5. 5

    People buy from people + reputation, not a perfected landing page.

  6. 5

    SEO is overrated.

    1. 2

      Now this is controversial

    2. 1

      For people who solemnly depend on SEO, it is overrated. But for website who doesn't use them, that's just frustrating :/

  7. 4

    Hiring junior developers is an investment that takes a long time to pay returns. If your startup's runway isn't measured in years, you should not be making that investment yet.

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      I don’t think this is overly controversial, just not something companies have learned yet. I think a lot of companies see Junior Developers as “cheap” but don’t realise the amount that a junior actually costs.

  8. 4

    Connections and luck play a larger factor than most successful founders would admit.

  9. 3

    “Phone/Zoom calls are the new twitter when it comes to growth strategy”

    I totally agree with @Primer about building in public. But this goes for using social media too as a way to push your brand.

    I have never really bothered with social media, but in the past 10 days really gave twitter a big go to push my new Venture Cards startup and to figure out what i was missing and if i should bother longer term.

    F%&king hell, my brain is frazzled after 10 days of twitter and feel totally ADDICTED. And why? All so i can show off my “back story” in the hope that anyone gives a shit. They don’t.

    Today i am coming off twitter (until i can afford a social media manager who enjoys this stuff). People will see my about-us page and hopefully that is enough to express what me and the idea are about. If you need me to tweet about it before you will take interest, then move along, nothing here for you!

    And yes, i have a growth plan that involved good old fashioned reaching out to my target, setting up phone/zoom calls and having a face to face chat about what i offer.

    [and take a deep breath and relax 😊]

    Well, you did ask!

  10. 3

    Some of y'all really need to get out there and enjoy life more and stop stressing so much over starting/growing a startup.

    Travel the country/world, go to clubs, go to concerts, go to festivals, nurture your hobbies, experiment with crazy career paths, meet girls, get wild, and God forbid drink and party and do drugs a little while you're young.

    This startup thing will always be there. Until you're old. It will always be there.

    Your energy, your youth, your zest for life, your current social circle will not.

    I swear to God, you will never regret not working more when you're at your death bed.

    You will probably regret not spending more time with your friends and family, seeing more of the world, living life to the fullest while you still have your health and vitality, not going after that crazy dream of yours (rock star, movie star, model, skateboarder, whatever!) -- things of that nature.

    Edit: This thread is a bit like r/unpopularopinion. If your comment is heavily-upvoted, it's obviously not controversial.

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      Can't agree more 👍

  11. 3

    @brandonHacker is crazy to ask such question online. I came to this realization after the past 5 years of what is happening online 😅.

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      Haha you are right, it was probably a crazy risk. But it turned out okay!

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      This comment was deleted 4 years ago

  12. 3

    AI tools for copyrighting and design are a lie.

    1. 2

      LET'S GO! Preaching.

  13. 2

    Elon Musk is 50% Conman.

  14. 2

    Devs don't hate marketing

    They actually don't mind marketing, may actually like it when it is good and understands them (as good marketing should I guess).
    What they do hate is advertising and sales, especially when it is pushy.

  15. 2

    Most software becomes worse over time. As new features get added it becomes more bloated and tries to do too much. Instead of being the best tool for a certain job it becomes a mediocre tool for some jobs and a decent tool for others.

  16. 2

    To add on to what @wagslane said: most people have no idea how to do marketing.

    People talk about it in a very abstract way like "hey remember to market your product," but it seems like few actually know how.

  17. 2

    Ideas are the easiest part of building a startup. If you can't come up with an idea you are either trying to be too unique or you literally don't do enough in your life to have problems you want solved.

    As a wanna-preneur, I am NEVER short of ideas. Maybe I have a lot of problems in my life, but ideas come in much faster than I can build even one, let alone all of them. I'm not saying any of them are the next Google, Uber, Facebook, Apple, etc, but they all have the potential to replace my household income and support my family...if only I could just slow my brain down long enough to focus on one and finish it.

    1. 1

      Yes! Ideas are good but effort towards building something and processes are much more important

  18. 1

    Ship many products in many niches is a profound waste of time.

    Save ourself by finding a true, deep purpose before trying to save others.

    Ended to this by learning the real question at the end if the day is: « am I ready to market this thing day and night for 2 years after shipping it in these two weeks? » it’s the game of sales (of course, business 🤦‍♂️)

  19. 1

    Substack (content Paywall ) is a lie.
    Not so much niche content to maintain substack middle class.

  20. 1

    Using SQLite in production is actually pretty awesome: https://blog.wesleyac.com/posts/consider-sqlite

  21. 1

    You don't have to build in public just because everyone is

  22. 1

    Modern day "marketing" is just a shouting contest. Fact.

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      I will definitely agree with this

  23. 1

    JavaScript isn't the boogeyman. Its actually fun to write despite some of the issues. Who wouldn't want to reduce context switching while developing their product?

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      JavaScript seems like the standard choice for people on this site, especially the ones starting out.

      1. 2

        I definitely agree. Just grew up in circles where it was looked down upon a lot :p

  24. 1

    Social media is not indispensable to have a succesful digital product.

    At least where I live (developing country in the Caribbean). People use FB, IG, etc. a lot for simple everyday products but when it comes to enterprise software, nothing screams more "amateurish" or "unprofessional" than an instagram page as your official website and lots of ads on any of those platforms.

    Sorry for my english. I'm not a native speaker.

    1. 1

      hello benjfel, I'm not a native speaker too, how do you learn and improve your english, I mean, your writing grammar is better than min lol

      1. 2

        Hey, @selamatpagiamir, I watch a lot of series and movies with english subtitles (Maybe I should stop wasting time on those and work in my projects instead? hahaha)

  25. 1

    Developers love whining about marketing and not understanding marketers.

  26. 1
    • 90% of software developers are a waste of space and money.
    • Good marketing is for crap products.
    1. 1

      the software developer one is so goood!

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      I wholeheartedly couldn't agree with this more!

      The reason you don't see many indie hackers doing $30k+ a month is because they're just not posting about it on Twitter. Instead, they're just busy putting in real work.

    2. 1

      All of those companies had an extreme focus on product early on and only started pushing on marketing after getting product-market fit.