What is a must for creating a no-code tool?
Hi,
it´s great seeing so many people using no-code tools to create valuable things.
From a coder perspective i feel like we sometimes don´t do enough to help you.
Can you help me to understand what do you usually miss in no-code tools and how can we help you to be more productive? are there any guides for new no-coders?
Blaming coders allowed :).
As a nocode builder and the same time co-founder of Tabbli I always interesting which criteria do creators follow.
You can look at comments under my LI post.
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/alex-gorin-552b31a4_nocodetools-activity-6650834895503400960-mo6q/
Thanks. Good list.
Hey @Ricardo such a positive vibe here :)
I'm always looking to see a #nocode builder for Chrome Extension, is it technically possible?
Aside, I'm running a side project on Notion, still wanting to see more plug-ins / opensource add-ons to make Notion more powerful. Any ideas?
It is. Chrome extensions are basically html,css and JavaScript.
Looks like a good idea.
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Would be awesome if you'd execute this :)
Hello, NoCoder!
Just discovered this video series from Bubble. This might help you for a start.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvMCzSSkbag&list=PLoNVJrdvQQYlGHGcKDCpbgAv1lruNA8db&index=1
The no-code tools I've seen have a couple of common issues.
The first is, even if it seems counterintuitive, no-code tools have a steep learning curve despite the great design and the visual environments.
The piece of functionality the no-code developer needs at any give step is spread across vast component libraries, logic flows, and long lists of object properties. This requires experimenting in advance with a large number of elements in the toolbox to figure what they can do and how they can combined.
The other issue is a no-code app is like a chain. If a single link is missing from the toolbox, it's a showstopper and the app can't be completed without coding. Or at all. This happens more frequently than no-code vendors realize.
For the record, I'm familiar with coding as I'm a hobby programmer.
Thanks.
What tools are you using now?
I'm currently exploring AppGyver. Another issue with this tool is most of the tutorials are available only as videos. I'm not a visual learner and prefer text, so this slows down learning.
Thanks.
Good point. I´m also more into text tutorials. Is easier for me to go to the info that i need, but many people prefer videos. So probably a better solution to have both.
Looks like a great tool. Did you used it for your products?
Right now I'm just exploring AppGyver, I'm not using it for any projects.
AppGyver is the best no-code development environment I've seen. It allows to create both web and mobile apps, packs tons of flexibility, and offers all the best features in a generous free plan.
as antarcian said, do we really need another no-code tool?
building something because it's fun sounds a bit light.
Although my education started me out coding, I haven't coded in decades. Dabbled here and there. I've looked at most of the no-/low-code tools, and the biggest problem I see is that my needs are slightly more complex than their online examples show. Over and over I see samples of how they can make a job candidate list (snore), or organize your record collection (roll eyes), or show a client record page with (gasp!) a google map of their work address.
HUGE YAWN.
Why anyone would want to build their own tool when there are literally hundreds of other paid and free open source tools out there that already accomplish this is literally beyond me. I want to accomplish things that are unique, a bit more complex and certainly not so sleep inducing that I could get a 6 year old to code it.
Let's get better examples of what your stuff can do.
From a coder point of view, most of the times you create a tool, mainly for 3 reasons.
1- because you can do it
2- because is fun. Programming is so much fun
3- because many times is easier to start coding than doing things not so easy for me, like selling, marketing or writing.
Thanks. One thing i never thought was creating better documentation, and more examples of what you can do. Good point.
could you give an example of where you tried to build something complex where your needs weren't met? And would you say that coding a solution yourself would be simpler than learning a tool that might exist in that niche?
For example, there's a feature I want in an app that I need that will take a 3D grid of text (where cells have multiple values) and animate them into an outline format. Visually.
As for your 2nd question, hard to say. Depends on many factors. Also simplicity does not take into consideration the amount of time spent (effort) learning a tool.