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What Really Makes Indie Hackers So Great?

Here's a small story.

An indie has been struggling to drive some traffic to his site to test whether it converts. He has spent a few days posting stuff in various communities.

And then he makes a stupid blog post at IndieHackers.

For next 48 hours, he gets a steady stream of visitors , quite a few conversions, and is able to discover the shit stains on his website. 🔥🔥

Not to mention, he gets an encouraging response from @csallen himself.

For the less discerning, that hapless Indie Hacker is me 😊

I have often wondered what differentiates online communities.
While some are honeypots for abusive, violent behaviour, some others tend to be exceptionally constructive.

As First Citizens of IndieHackers, what do you guys think?

on June 3, 2020
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    For me, it's the sense of community, really friendly people trying to help each other.

    Pretty sure @rosiesherry is the one responsible for making it happen!

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      @csallen made it a lot easier by leaving me with a great community culture to lead ❤️

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        Thanks @csallen for everything you've been doing for IH. Obviously, without your hard work nothing would be possible today

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      Pretty much this!

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        <Note to self>
        Secret weapons of community : @rosiesherry and culture.

        There are some great answers to this post. And it's very easy to see how culture has a life of it's own - keeps multiplying within the community.

        Kudos @csallen

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      Love this response. Directing credit where it's due :-)

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    Steve Huffman has posted on Reddit once in the last year.

    That's the difference.

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      Wow, interesting find. Had never checked out his account.
      He does have lots of posts in 2018 tho, and while I haven't checked, he might have been active in the meta subreddits. (I generally have a positive view of Huffman)

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    Hi Utkarsh! Awesome to hear about the increased engagement. IH differentiates itself from other online communities in a number of ways.

    For one, I've found that the target audience is inherently scrappy and genuine. Lots of these folks rely on their hustle to support themselves or their families. Indie Hackers are providers. The positive content on IH is a reflection of the positive characteristics of its community.

    Secondly, the incentives are wholesome. We're not one-uping each other to see who can post the funniest meme. That's a broad application of a tiny amount of value; your meme makes 10,000 people giggle. Indie Hackers share their experience because it has the potential to drastically alter the course of another person's venture. That's a (relatively) narrow application of a lot of value; your advice helps 3 people get their company acquired.

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      Great observation. That's so true - when we write a blog post somewhere, we are trying to get as many readers as possbile.

      But contrast, when we comment, it's really for the OP.

      Every single time we do that, we are primarily benefitting ONE person. And thoughfulness of the comment shows if we care.

      "Inherently genuine" is also quite right. I am part of communities at so many places. From marketers to job seekers, everyone is on every community trying to get noticed.

      But an "inherently genuine" community causes everyone to behave within some tacit guidelines. At IH, it seems to be, "help others".

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    I think it is the community that makes it great. I think there is a shared understanding that trying to start a business is extremely difficult, especially as an 'Indie Hacker' or a solopreneur. This shared understanding allows us to contribute our stories and experiences with one another in a way that is helpful and empathetic to the fact that this shit is hard.

    Those here who have gained 'success' understand how hard it can be to get to that point. They are happy to share insights and knowledge that they wish they had when they were starting out.

    A rising tide lifts all boats.

    This is my IH sentiment analysis from being here just over a month. Hope it helps.

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      Makes sense, and it does help. I like this perspective - "empathy" is built right into the genesis of IndieHackers. And acts as the central binding force of sorts.

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        It's the glue that holds us together haha.

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    In my opinion, it's because IH is small and already has an existing culture that is really great.

    It's hard to maintain a great culture if something explodes in popularity and grows very quickly. But if you start slowly and grow slowly, with a core base of friendly people, then the culture can maintain itself.

    It's the same with company culture as well, or frankly any kind of community.

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    It facilitates intelligent conversations in lots of threads, every day. A lot of business-minded people have gathered here.

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    The camaraderie of the struggle to achieve financial independence.

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    For starters, it's the people that make this community awesome. I joined recently but already feel welcomed, seeing humble stories, and valuable comments and short interesting email news reads. With regard to the product, the start here navigation is a good example of how well the product is designed user-centric.

    Thank you @csallen

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    it's the build in the open mentality! here's my personal take on it.

    i love this place!

    and also... @rosiesherry is the sauce.

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    It is definitely the culture (set by founders and community manager) and the willingness of other Indie Hackers to help others.

    A community is as good as its members and IH is a great example of it.

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    These sort of things almost always come down to leadership... if you ask why enough.

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    Can't agree more

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    there is a very positive vibe of helping one another. It's very genuine community of people that have versatile set of skills and experience and when you combine that and try to isolate the cream, it's very nom nom. I felt i grew here the past month a lot, and it's been just one month.

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    It's really the community and the interactions it produces. Even on Product Hunt you don't have as active a community as on IH (more upvotes on PH, but less conversation).

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      True, interactions are probably the most critical aspect of a great community. All the long lasting communities have it in spades - reddit, HackerNews etc. PH is a listing site first, and community later - so that's ok. You do have some interactions on PH Makers though, but nothing like a deep meaningful comversations we see on IH.

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        Agreed @kushon!

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    Thanks for the likes but I was hoping to initiate some discussion :-D

    Maybe the answer lies somewhere in striking a balance between promotion and help. Subreddits which totally ban promotion tend to be very less active. Best content writes have become so usually with goals of promoting their business, while adding value to others.

    On the other hand, too much promotion leads to spam - and genuine users leave. Easy to manage when the community is small, but IndieHackers no longer is.

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      You won't believe I was once yelled at by a telecaller for not listening to her intently enough. :D

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