I see the idea of "Sell before you build" come up in every startup community, and even then, I still messed up in this department. For me, the reason was that I thought the idea was validated when it's not. I know there isn't a standard objective list of metrics that you must tick before the idea is validated enough to start building, but I'm struggling to find any resources on anything close to 'objective'.
All the advice around this topic is something like "just speak to your customers and understand there problems and make sure they want what you're building, best if you get presales" but not much on the numbers.
So I was wondering if any of you here uses a more detailed criteria or checkbox for knowing if your idea is worth pursuing?
Thanks!
For me, I got to know the issue before building anything. Don't know what you are building but there are places on the internet where you can see people with real paying trying to payas little as they can to got there problems solved. Freelancing websites. Just go there and see what kind of problems appears more than once. For me that is a pretty good way to validate if your idea would get traction.
If no one is talking about the pain you think you are solving. Maybe there isn't a pain to be solved at all.
But there is no other way, you need to talk with those people, build a prototype and message them, tell you understand what they need and try to sell.
For me validation might be different from you, but a success in my book is to have someone that wants to pay you a recurrence and the amount they are paying you Is greater than the hassle you are having to build it
Using freelancing gigs for validation is smart! The issue I'm having the most is that the problem is generic (we want to make it easy for businesses to build AI systems through a no code tool) which I know is never a good thing, so my cofounder and I are currently conducting user interviews to try to get to specific problems and niche it down.
There is this no code tool called Bubble, they got a plugin marketplace there, check that marketplace out to see if your idea wasn't built already
Do you think FB & Instagram are worth it ?
Twitter, Reddit and HH is already alot of work for a solo builder with a 9-5 job...
Hair on fire problem = the potential customer will call, email and potentially follow up when shown even a glimpse of what I am building.
If I have to chase after someone, that means I haven't find my ideal early customer yet.
Maybe such hair on fire customers do not simply exist, but then is that a business I should be even getting into?
Validating the problem and validating a solution are 2 different stages to validate an idea. To validate a problem you have to find people talking/discussing about a problem and ask them what's causing it, how they use any work around and how painful it is to have the problem. To validate a solution (which is built to solve a specific problem) you need the following:
To validate the solution you need to have multiple users using the product (paid or not) to solve the same problem.. so if there are 3 users using your product for different reasons it's not a validation. Same goal is important as you'll base your marketing and future development based on this goal.
At least 5 users using the product is good but more the better
If you conduct a survey among the users who have used the product multiple times and have attended the 'aha' moment, and ask just one question- 'if this product doesn't exist tomorrow how would you feel?' answer choices- 1. Nothing, 2. Disappointed 3. Extremely disappointed. -> if at least 40% users respond as 'extremely disappointed' you have validated your idea.
Going back to why selling alone doesn't validate the idea. There are many cases where people buy something flashy and soon realize that they don't need it. Since saas is based on a recurring payment model, someone paying for it once without using it doesn't mean they'll continue pay for it/using it for a long time.
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Validating your startup idea before building is essential. While there is no standard checklist, here are some approaches:
Customer Conversations: Talk to potential customers to understand their needs and validate demand for your product or solution.
Pre-Sales or Letters of Intent: Secure commitments from customers to purchase your offering before it's built, indicating market interest.
Market Research: Analyze market size, growth potential, and competition to identify opportunities and differentiation.
Competitor Analysis: Study competitors' offerings, pricing, and positioning to find gaps and unique value propositions.
Proof of Concept: Develop an MVP or prototype to demonstrate key features and gather early feedback.
User Testing: Conduct sessions with target users to observe their interaction with your MVP and gather feedback on usability.
Iterative Approach: Continuously seek feedback, make improvements, and refine your idea based on user input.
Remember to balance objective data with qualitative insights from customers. Engage with mentors, startup communities, and experts for guidance tailored to your industry.
I recently saw a post here saying that after getting 2,000 signups for a waitlist landing page, only one of them became a paying customer when the product launched.
You can think you have validation when you see the number of signups.
Then you can think you have zero validation when only one becomes a customer.
To me, the best signal is excitement.
If you can detect that people are actually excited and react in a way that's more than "oh, that sounds cool, so anyway..." then you know you're on the right path. You may not have it right yet, but maybe you'll get there.
Then once you launch and see underwhelming numbers - that also shouldn't scare you into giving up. Sometimes you need just a few active users in the beginning to figure out what you actually need to build in order to get more people like them excited.
Not exactly calling its a validated idea. But here is the quick validation process, I would recommend.
Might help, one of the most solid advice I've heard in my career is to dive into a potential competitor's reviews page, filter that to the bad reviews, and try to find a common pattern (i.e., 'what are their problems with the current product of competitor X?'). Then try to gauge if the idea you have in mind will solve whatever that problem is.
Honestly I've struggled with figuring out what Idea is worth pursuing. Picking the right idea in a growing market is the most important decision you can make as a builder.
In order to make it more effective I created a validator tool that I use to filter all of my ideas and launched it on ph last week
Few things that are important to answer
Problem
Market Research
Potential Customer Base
Evaluate Business model
How Feasible and risky is this idea based on known frameworks of successful businesses.
These are just a few things you should take into consideration.
Having your own filtering system is extremely important
I created one that works for me, It basically does all of the above and more and rates the idea out of a 100, so I can see the potential relative to my other ideas
I don't think you need numbers, but if you have more than one enthusiastic "yes" when you approach a prospective client before you've even finished the convo, then you're probably on the right track.
Hey Mohammad,
First, understanding your target market's pain points and ensuring there is demand for your solution is crucial. Conducting thorough market research and customer interviews can provide valuable insights.
Next, look for indicators of interest and traction, such as pre-sales, early sign-ups, or letters of intent from potential customers. These actions demonstrate a genuine need for your product or service. Additionally, analyzing the competitive landscape and assessing your unique value proposition can help gauge the potential for success.
Numbers-wise, you can consider metrics like customer acquisition costs, customer lifetime value, or conversion rates. While specific numbers may vary depending on your industry, these metrics provide an objective view of the viability and sustainability of your idea.
Gl with your mvp :)
Thank you!
Getting presales would change everything, but the problem is that they're so hard to get organically, I think it would take me less time to build the MVP than getting a single presale. Also the pricing for my product is going to be on a pay-as-you-go/credit basis which is a problem for getting presales.
"Also the pricing for my product is going to be on a pay-as-you-go/credit basis which is a problem for getting presales."
Not...necessarily! Imagine the average SaaS pricing model. Tiers with benefits, costing $xx per month, right? Just create a 'start' tier for $9 / month and the tier should provide a capped amount of credits. There is time to make it 100% pay as you go later on and just disband the 'start' tier. This is what I would do and what I've seen to work. Good luck!
I dont think you can ever me 100% sure something will work, though in my opinion the best validation would be getting g presales. I recommend the book "The Mom Test" if you wanna go down the interview validation route.
Yep I would just want to maximize the chances, I think I'm pretty much just trying to define a minimum success criteria but because there's hundreds of factors that go into deciding that it seems like it has to be on adhoc basis which is why there isn't much resources on objective benchmarks. My cofounder is familiar with that book and it's been recommended to me multiple times, I gotta get a copy!
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