Why do job search services work like this?
Yesterday I wrote a farewell post which received a lot of responses https://www.indiehackers.com/product/meerkad/-LrhplGPSSjRg1kBKGNL and started looking for work on a remote site.
Faced the following problems:
- There are many websites with vacancies. It takes time to view each;
- Aggregators do not collect all vacancies;
- Newsletters are not personalized. The designer and engineer receive the same letter;
- Newsletters arrive once a day / week. There is no way to find out about the vacancy at the time of its appearance. A job may be closed before the job applicant learns about it.
Is there a website, service, tool that solved these problems?
Remoteweekly.cc should only send you jobs in your category. He is a fellow Indiehacker
Thanks for the mention Andrew!
@iamarsenibragimov I'm trying to solve points 1-3 with remoteweekly.cc
At the beginning, pick positions you are interested in. Later you can upvote/downvote each vacancy the system sends you, which should result in nicely personalized emails over time.
To your last (4.) point, I've recently bought remotedaily.cc domain so hang in there!
Nice to meet u, Petr! Why did you setup different domains instead of using simple selector on the landing page? 🤔What pros and cons? 🤨
👋 Do you mean the remoteweekly vs remotedaily domains? I'm just assuming those products will be slightly different, nothing more behind it.
Hey Andrew! Thanks for sharing. I've never heard of it. I'll give it a try
Hey Arsen,
These are exactly the problems we're looking to solve with beamjobs.com. We're focusing on engineers to start but essentially we index thousands of engineering jobs across the web then personally curate a list of 5 jobs each month based on what each engineer is interested in and what they're qualified for.
We went with the cadence of once a month for now because in our experience engineers are tired of being bombarded with cold emails and LinkedIn messages from recruiters so we're making a bet on quality to start. Would be happy to answer any questions!
Meet and greet me as new subscriber! 🥳
Not sure if you're looking for website suggestions or analysis of a business idea, so here's a little of both :P
I think a big part problems here are: 1) Trust, and 2) Matchmaking between skills and needs.
Both are hard problems. #1 can be somewhat mitigated by a reputation system of some kind, #2 can be somewhat mitigated by both parties setting filters and requirements.
I've been doing freelance/consulting work on Upwork, and I think they strike a pretty good balance here. Clients posting work can tag various skills they need, as well as select requirements around availability, location, work history, etc. On my side of things, I can see a client's job history, their ratings, how much they've spent (roughly), and other things.
Ultimately technology can only take you so far though. Upwork sends out a periodical email with job suggestions, but it's pretty hit or miss, and many of them are stale anyways by the time they hit my inbox.
The full solution to both these problems is the human factor - I have to look through postings, select the ones that seem like a good fit, and then start a conversation. From there, trust is built as the work starts and results are delivered, and as we both understand each other's needs and abilities.
If you're looking for business opportunities, there's a few ideas in here for improving the experience:
You - or people you hire - could come up with criteria for people looking for work, and sift through the avalanche of postings looking for things like a good fit for that criteria.
You could start an agency that builds relationships with clients and workers, greasing the wheels on the "trust" factor.
You could start a newsletter for a very narrow niche, and only send out potential work that looks like a super great fit for that niche.
Just some random ideas.
If you're just looking for work rather than business ideas, I can highly recommend Upwork. Expect it to be a slog at first, but if you can get through the slog you can find some real gems. I've tried some others (PeoplePerHour and Guru) and the quality of the tech and the job postings themselves are much lower and ultimately ended up not being worth it for me.
I can't speak much to other sites, but you can see some of them approaching these problems of trust and matchmaking from different angles. Toptal and Gun.io both try to add trust via a vetting process, and try to be a bit more hands-on with the matchmaking process. They are less of a job board and more of a network.
Anyways! I hope something in there was helpful! I wish you the best of luck! :)
Hi Tyler! Thank you for diving into the topic and a detailed answer.
It's mostly about hiring platforms like Toptal and Gun.io, isn't it? They look super cool but solve companies hiring problem not employees.
In theory it could improve things on both sides: A good agency would filter through any bad clients, and would keep an eye open for things that are specifically good fits for their workers.
But I agree with your general sentiment, it does feel like those companies specifically are focusing more on the client side of things than on the worker side of things. In a way it makes sense, clients are where the money comes from. But perhaps there's a gap in the market that could be filled by somebody who is a bit more worker-focused.
I'm a freelancer when I'm not pursuing a product and faced the same thing. I'm actually building the solution right now! You can create your email address, put it on your resume/portfolio, and then share it on job boards. Then, we score every email that comes your way based on what you want to see.
We're also working to get newly jobs in your inbox soon as they're put up by partnering with companies and job boards.
You'll probably have another gig by the time we formally launch, but if you have any feedback for us that'd be great!
Https://alcamine.com
Hey, I really like your idea!
For whatever it's worth, your tagline is confusing to me "Never apply to another job online and receive tons of tech jobs in your inbox everyday — all while keeping your information private."
Does that mean you apply for jobs for me? If so, could you add that to the FAQ and explain how you're able to do that successfully?
And are you saying if I sign up for your service I get tons of offers in my inbox? Or just targeted job postings to sift through?
I like where you're going with the site, I was just left with those questions after reading the page.
Keep up the great work! :D
Thanks for the feedback! We're working on the copy tomorrow actually :) How it works is when you create an account you get a unique email that you can then put on your resume or anywhere recruiters will find you. Then, when opportunities come in we score them based on what you're looking for and put them in your dashboard.
We're working to partner with folks who run small job boards as well so some jobs will get shot directly to you!
Very cool! :)
Sounds like I do still have to apply once something comes in, though, yeah? :P
If you sign up to the waitlist you'll be the first to know when launch and first dibs on choosing your @alcamine.com email!
Wow! Interested one. How are u doing so far?
Pretty good! We had 100 sign ups the first day. We definitely need to work on the copy some but day one had 334 users on the site and 105 sign ups so conversion has been silly.
Our challenge has been finding where our community hangs out and getting more traffic. We're getting there though!
Impressing! Keep going!
https://www.ziprecruiter.com/ is solving many of these problems.
I think beside your first point they solve the others.
Hey Luke! Thanks for the reply but it's not about remote jobs