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Why don’t I hear much about Wordpress in the nocode world?

I have never heard Wordpress recommended for nocode, but people will talk about google sheets, bubble, sortable, etc.

Wordpress seems like a great nocode choice though. It’s a decent CMS out of the box. You can create a very modern site with no code. You can then add plugins from a choice of thousands to customise it.

Would anyone be interested in a guide to nocode on Wordpress?

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    Fully agree - Wordpress is massively underrated. The flexibility of content editing and market for templates and plugins is just amazing. And the prices are wonderful, too.

    Back in the day (2013-2015) I built a learning site using Wordpress and it made some money. I spent under $1k/year for WooCommerce plugin licenses and hosting, and everything was run genuinely as no-code. (This was before Teachable et al were on the scene, so I felt pretty good about that.)

    You can avoid the problems @volkandkaya mentioned by just buying reputable plugins and paying for quality hosting. There's probably a good content site in a guide for those options, @mcapodici.

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      Avoiding bad plugins and finding good hosts is a skill in itself.

      Many founders lack time, even WP "experts" get it wrong and top plugins often have security issues or conflicts.

      When you need plugins for basic SEO it is a problem.

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    Wordpress is far from nocode?

    I spoke to so many folks who had their database crash, plugin conflicts etc and forced to hire developers.

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      Good point, it is certainly more technical that just using one of the no-code offerings. There is care needed to choose plugins that wont foo up your installation, and doing backups etc.

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    Wordpress certainly requires more than just "no-code knowledge." However, with site builders like Elementor, I don't really see a big difference with no-code platforms.

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    I wouldn't put WordPress in the No-code zone. Wordpress requires technical knowledge to get it right.

    You will find a number of WordPress first timers lured by “5 minutes to WordPress install” promise abandoning WordPress after multiple frustrating attempts. Simplest tasks of finding and installing a reputable theme or plugin will eat up a few days of your life. For every functionality there are about 3-4 ‘reputable’ plugins and 15+ non-reputed ones. There are thousands of themes in Wordpress repository - evaluating and choosing a single one that works for your needs is finding a needle in a haystack.

    Wordpress has improved a lot since version 5.0 - The new block editor has expanded its design capabilities and it is still my #1 go-to-choice for CMS, partly because once you have ‘figured’ it out - the price is just right!

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    WP is the og nocode actually, even before "nocode" was a thing!

    I don't like it as much these days but I did start off building nocode products using WP, so it is a viable tool in some situations and use cases. Like some mentioned here, the constant security issues, endless Sisyphean updates, and slow speed is a real pain though (unless you have money or time to always wrangle with it). But its massive ecosystem of third party plugins, vendors, themes and talent pool is unmatched.

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    I have been building sites with WordPress since 2005/2006. Early versions took a tremendous amount of time to get going properly without many issues, plugin conflicts, etc. Thankfully those days are behind us now and most conflicts are easy to fix with a bit of Google-fu. WordPress has become so prolific that you can do just about anything you can imagine.

    I can have a WordPress powered site up and running in under 5 minutes on just about any host and can have a complete site including content and all within a couple of hours - as long as I have everything prepared. 📄

    When it comes to adding desired functionality - plugins are the way to go and with integrations like Zapier, the path to MVP is super easy - - so long as you know what you want it to do. 😉

    For example, earlier this year a friend of mine wanted to create a learning "hub" of sorts to sell to the corporate space as a pre-made solution with custom training videos, zoom meetings, etc. In under 6 hours I had the first iteration complete and subsequent iterations were completed noticeably quicker. So far, it's done pretty well. He had the connections on the business side and seeing as COVID hit when it did - the timing was perfect.

    There are other solutions available and those may be a better fit for some. For me, I am using WordPress and trying a few other things out along the way to see what I can do as far as my MVP is concerned.

    If anyone would be interested in trying out WordPress to see if it is a good fit, let me know. I can help. 😎

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    I agree 100%. Maybe it's because Wordpress is so obvious that some people might think there's something better?

    You can absolutely get a MVP up and running with Wordpress, all using plugins and a theme. The good thing about Wordpress too is that you can start out with no-code, then if you grow you can get developers to add code here and there, etc. Plus you won't have to pay for all those no-code subscriptions trying to get things to work together.

    I think a no-code guide for Wordpress would be super valuable and considering Wordpress is, what, 35% of websites, that would definitely sell (in my mind). Though maybe check if it already exists and if it does, see what you can do differently.

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    I've been thinking about this as well. WordPress is a powerful tool in many cases, and setting up compatible plugins requires WordPress knowledge.

    I made a new product to address this - https://nocodewp.io/introducing-nocodewp/ -if anyone wants to take a look at it. (yep, I know I'm late to the party)

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    Our entire website runs on WordPress, and has for over 2 years. It's bee an great foundation for someone like me who doesn't know how to code.
    At present we are looking into custom solutions, but it's definitely served us well!

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