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Why Should I Work On Your Idea

Hello there! This will be a little insight from a developer's perspective on this topic. I'm not going to tell you where to find a technical co-founder. My goal here is just to help you have a better chance of convincing a dev to join you.

I will assume that you have no money to "hire" your technical co-founder and you're in the initial or idea stage of your business.

We all have ideas. I'm a developer because I had so many things I wanted to build since I was a kid and being a software developer was just what I needed. Felt like having a superpower.

When you finally become a developer and want to start working on your ideas, you suddenly realize that you need money and that means that you need to go work for someone. You'll work on someone else's project, in exchange for money.

You're hoping that one day you'll have the freedom to work full time on your own projects.

Many times in your life as a dev you receive requests that go something along the lines of:

"Hey, I have an idea for an app (placeholder app idea here). We should partner up! This will be huge! We will be rich for sure"

Now, imagine this person is you, even if these are not the words or approach you would use. Now, here's the deal, unless I know exactly what's the value you'll bring to the table other than your idea, I will always hear those exact words regardless of what you say.

What a prospect technical co-founder wants to know is:

  • What will this person do every day as I work really hard on their idea?
  • Why should I work on this person's idea instead of my own?
  • Do I even care about this idea?
  • If I forget about this person and go build it myself, will it change anything?
  • Why should I trust this person?

If your initial approach answers these questions from the get-go, you'll have a higher chance of convincing said dev to join you.

You're basically asking someone to marry you so, treat it as the big deal that it is.

Ideally, you've already started working on your project, in which case your chances of convincing a dev are exponentially higher. Maybe you're using no-code tools to build a prototype. You did an initial test on the market and proved that there's a need for what you're building.

If you don't have much to show for, unless you have a good track record, it'll be really hard, to say the least.

If you don't have a track record, build one. Many self-taught devs like myself had to do this when looking for jobs. I actually built a portfolio of projects to show employers that I was capable. I went through technical interviews. I did the hard work and proved myself.

Nobody would take me for my claims of being good, sadly! 😂

Helping someone with their project is a great way to build your track record. Either paid or unpaid, you can bring them a real value proposition like: Hey I can help you go from a to b in x time. This is how I'll do it and this is what I ask in return.

Build a portfolio of your work. And let me emphasize, "work" and not "Hey look at my book of ideas" because ideas are worthless without execution and nothing turns devs down more than an "idea person".

Even failed executions are valid, unless you made a big exit you're probably working on your first idea or your 1000th project after 999 failures.

I know I am at least. No shame in that! Show your battle scars!

Many of these things apply also to people looking to join someone else's project, regardless of they being technical or not.

Assure me that you'll fight with me, shoulder to shoulder. Assure me that you'll take a punch for me and not just send me to fight your battles. Ultimately, I want to know that we'll triumph together or we'll die together with honor.

on March 29, 2021
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    So true.
    As a developer, I always hated this.
    But is even worst when people ask how much would cost to build an app (always was to be an app) without telling the idea. Because of course, you might steal it XD

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      Ugh, such terrible memories! Wait, what am I saying? It still happens. There's also the "this should be super easy to make" 🤦‍♂️really?

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        The best one I heard

        • Hey, I am thinking about a business idea. Would you like to work together?
        • What is your idea?
        • To create an Amazon for Africa. Do you think you could create the website?
        • Sure... But what about the logistics and operations?
        • Ahhh that's is easy
        • 🙃🙃
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    Thanks for a great post! Love your attitude for building new stuff :) With a more commercial background, this was indeed a great summary how to attract a technical co-founder (which seems to be a problem for anyone, including myself...).

    I liked a lot about your approach to "portfolio of projects" – it's indeed necessary to be able to proof yourself with actions, not just words. I'm touching the problem with the project I'm currently building at mycreds.app, with the idea to build a professional network for skill- and project-based endorsements. You can think about it as network-generated resume that proves your capabilities to execute, not just talk bs (or show "beautiful" college/corporate logos in your CV).

    Would love your feedback – do you think my idea makes sense for proving one's portfolio? You can check it out here: https://www.mycreds.app/.

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      I'm sorry I answered your question in a waiting room and I just realized that I didn't really give you the feedback you asked for.

      I think what you're working on is indeed a good way to prove one's "portfolio" regardless of being technical or not. You're in direct competition with Linkedin which I (as many people) don't like very much, but it's useful and everyone's there.

      I'd be compelled to use it if I could sign up with Linkedin and link it to my account so that I don't have to fill everything and maintain two sources of information.

      If you can solve the friction of getting people in, and you provide a better experience than Linkedin, you have a good chance of people herding towards it eventually.

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        Big thanks for your input! Really appreciate it :)

        You're indeed correct that the "actions/achievements" part should be highlighted more. Track record is after all interesting for anyone, esp. if you are about to get serious and build something together.

        And yes, LinkedIn is a natural comparison, but I also see my project as a complementary and not competing solution. LinkedIn integration is needed and in the roadmap – it would be silly to maintain double professional profile online, and any possible friction should be removed from the sign-up flow.

        Thanks for your comments, let me know if/how I can return the favour!

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          Well my feedback comes with no strings attached but if you'd like to give me your impressions on my website https://www.rogueengine.io/ I'd appreciate your perspective. Can you tell what it is I'm working on? Cheers!

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            Definitely a clear landing page, it's easy to understand what you're working on! I like the mock-ups, they give a clear picture of the capabilities of your engine.

            I'm investor by trade so have to say that you're on a bold mission to take on Unity & co! But I'm sure that's something you have clearly thought through.

            Have you considered tokenisation as an alternative for Patreon? I don't claim to be an expert, but tokens could offer an internet-native way to monetise your work as a creator while sharing governance rights to your supporters ("investors"). Could be worth looking at your case (and surely off the original topic of this thread, sorry...)!

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              That's no problem, this is interesting anyway.

              Thanks for checking it out. It's definitely super valuable to me having an investor's opinion.

              I'm not really taking on Unity as much as just filling a void they are leaving behind as they focus on taking on Unreal. Earlier this year I got confirmation that I was not crazy when Cocos Creator 3d came out with a full focus on WebGL.

              Only instead of rolling my own everything I'm building around three.js and that gives me a crucial edge, with reduced development times, 10 years of transferable resources on the web, and a massive community.

              I opened the Patreon page when I started, mostly as a test. Later on, I decided to focus on building the services around Rogue because that will be the actual business model.

              I wasn't thinking about tokenization but now I am... personally, I don't find them valuable at all, but the point is that other people do. I'd consider doing something about it, as long as it's with an environmentally friendly solution.

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                Makes a lot of sense!

                You're correct that certainly the actual services of your engine are the ones your customers will pay in the long run, and they should be the priority. I see tokenisation as an interesting community-led alternative for traditional equity-based financing (angels, VCs...) that could fit nicely in the use case you are now experimenting. Those solutions are definitely still in an experimentation-phase, but general interest towards different tokens seems to be high, so it could help you forward.

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                  Indeed! I have no idea of how it would work to be honest but it's something to consider. I'd very much like for my users to be able to invest in the platform.

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      Hey thanks for stopping by!

      The idea is definitely really good and you got started already which is brilliant. The landing page tells me that you mean business and you are hands on.

      What this doesn't tell me is why I should be excited about working with you. Why are you so important for this business? If I go and build this myself in a couple of months what will I be missing out by not doing it with you?

      A good way to go about this is focusing on explaining what your job is: I'm working on X I do X, Y and Z. So far I've accoplished XYZ and I want to partner with soneone to do X.

      This works well to show that you are serious about it but not as a portfolio. A portfolio is what you have already done, like a cv ironically. Who have you helped? How have you helped them?

      I hope you'll find this useful. I wish you the best of luck with your search and your project.

      Cheers

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      Hey Bruno, thanks for the warm welcome! To my surprise, it's my most viewed and voted post with a humble 91 views and 9 votes.

      Your value proposal sounds reasonable. If you leave on the table the percentage of the opportunity cost then it makes a lot of sense. Otherwise, you'd be a regular co-founder and should get a hefty piece of the pie.