You finished building.
You shipped. You wrote the README. You set up the landing page. You posted on Twitter. You submitted to a few directories. You waited.
A trickle of visitors. A handful of signups. Then quiet.
Not because the product is bad. You know it works. You've seen what it does for the people who actually find it. The problem isn't the product.
The problem is that nobody can find it.
This is the part nobody talks about after launch.
The building phase has a community. IndieHackers, Reddit, dev Twitter — there are thousands of people sharing what they're building, and that feels like momentum. Then you ship, and you realize that shipping is where the support system ends.
Now you're alone with a product and a traffic problem.
Most founders respond by chasing distribution — posting more, launching again, trying a new channel. A few months later they're exhausted, the product is unchanged, and the traffic problem is identical.
The channel isn't the problem. Discoverability infrastructure is.
Avenir is built for exactly this moment.
Not for launch day. For the 6 months after launch day when your product is real, your users love it, and nobody outside your immediate circle knows it exists.
Submit to The Pulse. If it's good — and I mean actually good, not polished-landing-page good — it stays visible. Permanently. No launch window, no expiry date. The right people find it because they're actively looking for what you built.
52 products get featured this year. The feed is open right now.
Looks interesting. I know a lot of builders struggle with finding an audience so hopefully this helps them with that side of things. Good luck!
For @athena I did a 5 min video overview of the website (sorry the recording got cut at the 5 min max). I can't post any links but if you want to see it please DM me :)
Hey, i would love to see the video. you send us the video through email.
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Email sent, hope its useful.
i am interested, by overview do you mean like work through the entire platform?? or anything special?
Right, is there really no way for me to DM you the recording? I'm not allowed to paste links, I guess because I'm new here...
This hits close to home. I literally just launched my first product this week built it with zero coding experience, posted on Product Hunt, submitted to directories, shared on X. I got 67 users in the first week which felt great, but now I'm staring at the "what next" problem you're describing.
The building phase is addicting because every day you see progress. Post-launch is a completely different game. Nobody tells you that the marketing grind is harder than the building grind.
I'm investing in SEO content right now (10 blog articles targeting long-tail keywords) because I figure that's the only channel that compounds over time without me having to manually push every day. Everything else feels like shouting into the void.
Checking out Avenir , the "no launch window, no expiry date" angle is interesting. Most directories give you 24 hours of visibility and then you're buried. Cheers!
The part about shipping being where the support system ends really hit. During the build phase, there's constant feedback, people cheering you on, commenting engaging. Then you launch and it just... goes quiet. Same product, same effort, but a completely different reality.
I'm going through that right now. The product works, people who have used it get it, but getting that first layer of activity from real users has been the hardest part, even harder than constructing the backend jajaja.
Like Discoverability is its own problem with a mind of itself.
This is right on target! We built an autonomous software test agent (ASTA) to support our testing practice and now are trying to sell it as a SaaS product. Getting the attention of the right people seems impossible. It really is a Catch 22...you have to be recognized in order to be recognized, especially if your product appeals to a niche audience. I like your idea of featuring worthy new products. For all the makers out there, thank you!
Being "known" is overrated if you don't own the ground you stand on.
Most founders spend all their energy shouting on platforms just to get noticed. But I learned the hard way this week when my Medium account was wiped out: visibility is a lease, not an asset.
I stopped chasing "discovery" and started building private infrastructure. When your authority is baked into your own system, you don't have to beg the algorithms to show your face.
Focus on being inevitable to a few, rather than invisible to many.
the part about the building phase having a community but distribution being lonely is painfully accurate. when you're building, everyone on twitter and here is cheering you on. the second you ship, those same people move on to the next person who's building something. it creates this weird illusion that you had momentum when really you just had attention from other builders, not from customers. the founders i've seen actually crack distribution treat it like a second product — they iterate on it, measure it, and put in the same kind of effort they put into building the thing itself. most people just post a few times and give up when nothing happens in week one
I feel like I make helpful products almost every day, that really is the hardest part, I’m gonna look into this.
This hits, shipping isn’t the hard part, getting discovered is. feels like that gap after launch is where most products actually struggle.
this is exactly where i'm at right now. spent 3 months building an AI day planner solo — iOS is live, users who find it love it, but the "finding it" part is a completely different skill than building it. the post-launch quiet is real. i didn't build in public so i don't have an audience waiting. just a product and a traffic problem. honestly the hardest part isn't that nobody cares — it's that the people who would care don't know you exist yet. that gap is brutal.
This is exactly where I am right now. Just launched
my first Notion template two days ago and getting
it discovered is the hardest part. Building in public
and trying different channels every day to see what
sticks.
This post captures something most builders don't want to admit out loud — that shipping is not the finish line, it's where the real work begins. The framing of "discoverability infrastructure vs. channels" is exactly right. Chasing new channels without solving the underlying visibility problem is just rearranging deck chairs. Building in public creates community energy during the build, but that same community moves on to the next builder almost immediately after you ship. The founders I've seen succeed long-term treat distribution like a product — something you iterate on systematically, not a launch event you do once.
Launched my first SaaS today and already starting to feel this effect, gonna be checking this out.
What a great thought and problem identification
This hits hard.
Feels like the real problem isn’t building anymore — it’s distribution.
I’ve been seeing this a lot in e-commerce too. Even when merchants have a real, painful problem (like chargebacks), they still struggle to find the right tools unless they actively go looking for them.
Curious how you think about balancing “pull” (being discovered when someone is already searching) vs “push” (outreach, content, etc.) in the early stages?
This nails the loneliest phase of building — that post-launch silence where the dopamine of shipping wears off and you're just staring at flat analytics. The bit about the support system ending at ship is painfully accurate. Building has community; distribution has Google and desperation. Will check out The Pulse.
This hits hard… I have seen good products die just because nobody could find them.
Building is step one, but staying discoverable is the real game.
The post-launch quiet is real. We're experiencing it right now with Manuscript: a writing workspace for authors where AI analyzes your craft but never writes a single word for you.
The idea came from a simple frustration: every "AI writing tool" out there wants to write for you. Autocomplete, ghostwriting, generated paragraphs. We went the opposite direction. Our AI does structure analysis, character logic checks, pacing diagnostics, and plot hole detection, but the cursor is always yours. Every word is provably human-written, tracked from the first keystroke.
Authors who find it love it. The problem is exactly what you described, getting it in front of the writers who are looking for something like this but don't know it exists yet. The ones who are tired of AI tools that want to replace their voice instead of sharpening it.
If any writers here are looking for a tool that respects the craft, I'd genuinely love feedback!
hmm
The post-launch silence hits different when you've built something people actually need. You ship, your first users love it, and then you realize distribution and product are completely different skills.
We went through this with Scoutivex (a real-time alert tool for Vinted resellers). The product worked. Early users were getting real margin on their flips. But traffic was a trickle.
What actually changed things: going very deep in 2-3 niche communities where our exact customer already lived, contributing genuine value there first. Not posting links, just talking with people about their actual problem. Then long-tail SEO content targeting the exact questions they Google before they know a tool like ours exists.
The "discoverability infrastructure vs. channels" framing is spot on. The channel was never the issue. The issue was whether the right people could find us when they were actively looking. That's a different problem with a different solution.
Non-coder built a multi agent orchestration GUI... and it's free.
- Self modifying agent code required for agent workflows and it's works with 5 API providers.
- Micro kernel with process isolation and cryptographic security.
- Wallet with novel cryptographic implementation still in progress.
- Cognitive chain prompt that utilizes Canvas environments for enhanced AI exchanges.
Git - NexusAISafety and /Nexus
The post-launch silence is real and almost nobody talks about it honestly. You ship, the adrenaline fades, and then you realize distribution is a completely separate skill from building.
The point about discoverability infrastructure vs. channels is sharp. Most founders treat them as the same problem and keep launching on new channels without fixing the underlying thing — that the right people simply can't find them when they're looking.
this is promising
This is a really important issue; we’re facing the same problem. Distribution is the hardest part!
Looks promising! You are right this is one of the hardest parts in a startup!
"Great insight! I've been building an AI tool for local businesses and facing similar challenges with user acquisition. Would love to hear how you approached your first 10 customers."
This hits a bit too close 😅
The “you shipped → now what?” phase is реально самая сложная часть. Building has community, distribution feels like shouting into the void.
Agree with the core idea — it’s not about “more channels”, it’s about being discoverable when someone is already searching for your solution. That’s where most indie products fail.
Curious how Avenir solves the long-term side though:
what keeps traffic flowing after initial exposure?
how do users actually find products in The Pulse over time?
If this really becomes a place with persistent discovery (not just another launch spike), that’s super valuable.
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What the heck is going on here huh :/ Is it even still worth manually engaging with others in here? Or is it just all bots now?
Ikr, they all sound like bots, i assume they are using ai to reply. and ai likes to make it sound like that.
Yep, and it's at the point where it's diminishing the value of the entire platform imho.
This is painfully accurate. The “building phase” feels crowded and supportive — everyone’s sharing progress, shipping screenshots, and cheering each other on. But the moment you actually ship, the room goes silent. You go from community energy to staring at analytics alone.
I’m in that exact phase right now. The product works, early users love it, but outside my tiny circle it’s basically invisible. And you’re right — the instinct is to chase channels instead of fixing discoverability. More tweets, more posts, more directories… but the traffic graph barely moves.
This hits hard. The 'post-launch silence' is the ultimate filter for founders. We spend so much energy in the 'Build in Public' bubble that we forget that shipping is just the start of a much harder war: distribution vs. resilience.
I'm currently building a security scanner (Mosai Security), and I see this 'traffic problem' from a different angle: founders are so desperate for eyes on their product that they often ship a 'ticking time bomb' just to feel momentum. But as you said, if a product is 'actually good,' it deserves permanent visibility. And to stay visible permanently, it needs to be solid under the hood.
Checking out Avenir now. Your focus on the 6 months after launch is exactly where most of us get lost. Great insight
I'm gonna try this out because i need to market my app a lot lol
You're product is live in pulse!
great work. and great naming choice btw.
This hits hard. We just shipped R2R2 (a reading protocol for cognitive diversity) and immediately hit the discoverability wall. The product works; we've tested it with two agent collaborators across different platforms. But nobody outside our circle knows it exists.
The learning curve is steep (it's not a tool, it's a framework). No built-in community. No existing audience. Just a solid product and silence.
Your point about discoverability infrastructure vs. distribution chasing is exactly right. We're not going to spam Twitter. We're going to find the people actively searching for what we built; librarians, accessibility researchers, neurodivergent readers.
The Pulse sounds like exactly that mechanism?
This solves a problem... well, if it works. How does this help with brand / product discoverability? Instead of marketing your own product or service, you leave it in the hands of avenir to do the heavy lifting for you. But what does that mean? For avenir to get noticed, it has to build a track record of doing the same successfully for others. Interested to see how this plays out as like you said, this is a difficult nut to crack for new products/services...
👍🏽 for trying to solve this problem. It is real and widespread.
Ironically, for it to become successful at its mission, Avenir itself has to break through the discoverability barrier.
cool