
Pantr AI
Infinite canvas for image gen with Gemini - no subscription
I just finished a soft launch of Pantr AI with about 50 friends and colleagues. The results were a mix of pride and a very cold bucket of reality.
In the first version, I thought I was being helpful with starting menu that guided people: "Click here to create a mockup," "Click here to combine images." I thought I was making it easy, but since i got a lot of messages “What should i choose?” I concluded people were unsure what they really needed to do, it wasn’t natural even though I had a small explaination in each option.
I thought I was building a better product, but this was getting in the way. People didn't want a "wizard"; they wanted a playground. I realised that my power users—the ones actually using it for professional work felt restricted.
Pivoting to a reference system
I stripped everything back. I moved to an infinite canvas where the only "rule" is the @ reference. If you want a style (or person, or obejct from other image), you @-mention an image on your canvas. No wires, no "logic nodes," and no guided buttons.
The feedback has been night and day… I started to get people sharing with me “results”, and good feedback feeling “free”. It was a small victory eheh.
50 Testers, 4 Actives, 0 Payers
Right now the system is stable, it’s working, and I’m proud of it. I have 4 active users who are using it professionally for their daily workflows and explorations, but they are still using the free credits from the launch, and they are still friends, or close people.
Even with a minimalist UI and a stable build, getting that first "stranger" to pay is very hard. My instagram is full of ads about similar apps, "AI fatigue" is real, and I’m fighting against the tide of random AI generated apps and $20/mo subscriptions.
My gut feeling on pricing
I’m following my gut on a credit-based system. I personally dislike the "SaaS anxiety" on creative tools, that feeling of being billed for a month you didn't use. So I’m sticking with pay-as-you-go credits. But in a world of unlimited subscriptions, I don’t know if this is a stroke of genius or a mistake. VC backed companies, probably are forced to go that direction, and if my gut is right maybe we can capitalize on that?
Launch Promo…
I’m now pushing for my first paying users with a "Founder Offer" (50% off for life) that expires May 1st. It’s a move to see if I can cross the gap from "cool tool my friends use" to "a real business."
I’ve added Pantr AI here on indiehackers, some reddit communites, Betalist and I’m planning a more structured launch on producthunt in a week or so. What’s your thoughts/experience about indexing on product directories?
I’m running some reddit ads to target communities around image generation, just because I found it easy to setup. Results are not looking great, as we don’t see any payment yet. But there’s traffic and some new accounts…
Would love to hear any suggestions on how to move from here.
Thanks for reading
Last month, I had a "burn it all down" moment.
I spent a full week trying to use one of those high-end node-based AI tools for a simple branding project, by the end of the week my screen was a mess of wires, "prompt nodes," and logic gates. I looked at the UI and realized that those tools are powerfull but for agencies automating a lot of work. I can see the value they bring, not for me.
I felt it first-hand: the current AI market is broken for creators. It’s either "Node based workflows" or chats that bury your work in a scrolling thread Gemini ( I love gemini models, thats why we use it) or "Node Nightmares"
So, I built Pantr AI. It’s my answer to the complexity and the "SaaS tax."
The Pantr Philosophy:
Against Nodes: No wires. No logic boards. I replaced "spaghetti" with a simple @ reference system. If an image is on your canvas, just type "@" to inherit its style or material. It’s "Spatial AI" for people who want to use image references more intuitively.
Against Chat Gen: You can see everything at once. No scrolling up and down a thread to find that one "perfect" version from an hour ago. It’s an infinite canvas that stays out of your way.
Against Subscriptions: I realized that for creators, monthly subs don't add up—they just add anxiety. Pantr is strictly pay-as-you-go credits. They never expire. If you don't use it for a month, you don't pay a cent.
I’m building this for the people who need pro-level consistency, people that are used to Figma, Photoshop, Illustrator canvas, but don't have time to learn another tools philosophy.
We’re currently in our "Founder Phase." Every new account gets 1,000 free credits (no CC) to tear the tires off the canvas. If you like the minimalist vibe, we’re doing a 50% off for life deal on all credits until May 1st.
I’d love your brutal feedback: Do you (or do you know designers, architects, creative people) that feels the same?
Looking forward hear from you guys.
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the “spaghetti AI” part is real, but I’ve noticed something weird- people complain about complexity, then still go back to it once things get even slightly. constrainedFeels like there’s a tradeoff between control and simplicity that’s hard to escape.
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Hi tomi, thanks for passing by and thanks for your comment. Yes, i know what you mean. In my case i never went back to Weavy or Flora or Freepick, Gemini 3.1 Pro is proving to give me the consistancy and quality i need for professional work! Also, i didn't want to pay their subscription (as meantioned before...) Did you used any of those tools or similar before?
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yeah, tried a few. They feel great at first, but once you need consistency across outputs or something more custom, it gets messy fast. That’s usually when I end up back in direct prompting
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I spent some time trying to a use node-based AI tool for a simple brand project and my screen was a mess of wires and "prompt nodes." I didn't felt right for a creative workflow. Also Gemini chat is hard to iterate.



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