Versoly
Easily build a SaaS landing page that actually converts
Product Hunt launches are such a rollercoaster event. With huge preparation before, hopefully a good nights rest and then wired all day.
Hoping it is worth it!
In Versoly 2.0 we added a new core engine that allows us to add "smart" content management systems quickly.
We decided that we need a new changelog that was beautiful, easy to edit and could embed anywhere. So in less than 2 days we had a working version.
Everything we add to our core engine is automatically added to this changelog product. This includes SEO (sitemaps, metatags, pagination), team access, custom design (fonts, navbars, headers, footers) and analytics.
In the future we will add the ability to fully customise the page without code and have multiple templates that fit your brand perfectly.
I look forward to your feedback!
If you need help importing content just dm on twitter, live chat or email me.
Finally launching 2.0 of Versoly!
Not sure about you but I always delay Product Hunt launches, I want them to be perfect. I create a list of todos for it and that list just gets longer and longer.
But sometimes you just need to launch.
The goal of 2.0 was for Versoly to be a no brainer for SaaS companies.
If they didn't use us they would be losing out on customers.
The knowledge base feature is one of those things.
By having your knowledge base inside a subfolder you get huge SEO benefits and a lot of founders who build in public have spent weeks implementing it themselves.
New Features since V1 launch:
- Blogs
- Analytics
- 100+ new blocks and templates
- Knowledge Base
- Careers Boards
- Native email integrations with Mailchimp, Convertkit and Sendgrid
- Huge improvements in UX
- Teams (invite team members)
- Page speed still 99+/100 on desktop and getting there for mobile
Of course I will share results from the PH launch as usual
Your support would be much appreciated
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I don't see why you would delay it. Versoly sounds amazing. 😍
I've seen you on Pioneer (we're often leaderboard neighbors) and it always makes me feel impostor syndrome. Needless to say, I'm still avoiding the PH launch myself (my favorite excuse is that makers are not my target audience).
Question: you are right, the Knowledge Base, is one of those things it's hard to live without. Do you plan on launching it as a plugin? (I still enjoy the process of creating landing pages 🤷♂️)
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Haven't had a chance to review you yet on Pioneer. Soon :)
Makes sense, if your audience isn't there no need. Unless you want to raise VC (it can be good for that as you get a lot of outreach).
Can host knowledge bases free on Versoly subdomain or for $19 add a custom domain like help.pluckd.co
Great thing about Versoly is we have a code editor with HTML/CSS so you can still create custom landing pages and then have a CMS for your blog and knowledge base.
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Great write up
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Thanks!
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Awesome!
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Thanks :)
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Awesome! Hope it gets to #1
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Thanks, we're climbing at #3 :)
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Congratulations @volkandkaya
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Thanks bro!
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SaaS landing pages haven’t really changed much at all over the past year. However there are some new trends on maximising the value of a SaaS marketing website.
Adding alternative pages such as https://www.drift.com/drift-vs-intercom/. Also instead of having the knowledge base on a subdomain adding it to a subfolder instead like https://userlist.com/ recently did.
We also added affiliates, blog and blog articles pages. These additions should make building a SaaS marketing website much easier for designers and founders. Also less tabs ;)
As usually I will share all the results with you.
https://www.producthunt.com/posts/saas-pages-v2-0
P.S. If anyone wants help with their PH launch let me know (this will be my fifth one)
I think it is good to look back and see how far you have come.
1 year ago we had just spent 7 months building an MVP that should have took 2 months.
We was struggling to get anyone to use it for free let alone a paying customer.
We had an idea to create a free tool for SaaS landing page inspiration https://saaspages.xyz/ as we had the problem ourselves when creating blocks and templates for the website builder.
It did amazing on Product Hunt and got 10,000+ visitors.
Out of that we converted 1 to a paying customer of Versoly. 0.01% conversion rate, not bad.
We have grown a lot bigger and have had over 5000 people try our website builder and create a site.
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Congratz for surviving the first year!
I regularly see your comments/posts, it's good you stay active here to help others 👍
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Yeah IHs has helped me a lot. Learnt so much and avoided a ton of mistakes.
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Nice job! Out of curiosity, how many paying customers do you have now?
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We haven't made paying customers public, we have shared that 5000+ customers have used us to build a website.
Lots of folks who started out as open startups hid it after reaching a certain level and we want to be consistent.
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Congrats on the success. Why do they hide it? Also, what do you want to be consistent with? Not to tell you what to do but are you stopping it bc everyone else stops it or because you wanted to stop.
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I always try to weigh the pros and cons.
Not many advantages at the moment for being an open startup.
Once folks know your MRR they treat you differently and expect certain things is the gist of what I understood.
Or you get clones that copy everything you do and that just adds stress for no reason.
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Wondering the same.
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Congratulations - it’s been great seeing you consistently shipping and sticking it out longer than most!
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Thanks @Ramy
Maybe some sort of survivorship bias, but nearly all the folks who take feedback and have been around for 2 years are doing well.
However the majority normally quit way to early (post on IHs for 2 week to 2 months and then disappear).
A small minority just don't listen to advice and waste a ton of time.
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Thanks for sharing, you're not alone in that kind of journey that takes longer than expected :)
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Even when planned for, it takes longer than that.
I'm use to it as a developer :)
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awesome! congrats!
Are you profitable?
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Thanks!
Yes but barely, we're growing fast so in a few months life will be nice :)
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Woohoo!
Congratulations! 🙌-
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Thanks :)
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Congratulations!
This is a crowned space and you kept delivering and focusing on building a great product.
Looking forward to see how Versoly evolves!
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One of the most crowded spaces, just got told by a Russian founder of 3 large website builders that exist only in Russia.
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Congrats! the saaspages.xyz is a great idea :D
Keep up the good work
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Congrats man. Sounds like your tackling the “SaaS slow ramp of death” like a champ! I’m really enjoying your product so far. Keep at it, and you’ll be the size of square space.
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Pretty much. Hoping for a big boost (affiliate, PR etc). But planned for just the slow ramp.
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Inspiring man. Thanks for sharing. I’ve retuned my brain this year to not give up too early. Focusing more on shipping early and often and for long term. I guess each “ship” is like one step towards the goal which could take hundreds of thousands of steps.
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Good job. It’s a marathon not a sprint.
Decided to start a community focused around landing pages and conversions.
I love Indie Hackers and it is amazing to get feedback for your landing pages.
However I love talking with people in real time, making changes and sharing with them. Comments isn't the best place to do that.
I also wanted to do weekly calls where we discuss everything conversions that could be landing pages, email marketing and super cool engineering as marketing projects.
Why I made it https://versoly.com/blog/versoly-community
Come join discord.versoly.com and post your landing page :)
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I joined! Mostly just to get insipration from others ans see what people are working on nowdays.
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Thanks for joining :)
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It says the invitation for Discord is invalid :(
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That is very weird :(
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Any idea how to solve it?
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Go to https://discord.com/invite/RRz5tB4 what does it say?
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You're right there are trade offs.
For most I hope the pros outweigh the cons
- Quick feedback
- Weekly calls
- Maybe get early users
If they use Versoly
- Suggest improvements and new features
- Stay updated
- Learn about new features
Cons
- Can be a distraction if you spend too much time on it
I think if we time boxed sessions, then we can negate the one con.
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A few weeks ago we decided to launch an affiliate program for Versoly our website builder (https://versoly.com/affiliate) because a lot of customers started requesting it. We also saw customers come from word of mouth, so it was a no brainer.
We used Rewardful (https://www.getrewardful.com/?via=volkan) the founders were great and very responsive. It was also affordable compared to other options.
Straight away we got affiliates signing up and sharing with their audiences.
We just got a customer who signed up using an affiliate link and it was an amazing feeling know that others trust our product and are marketing it for us because there are 100s of website builders.
We also signed up a huge affiliate https://www.landingfolio.com/ and they're sending good traffic already. I hope we can deepen the partnership to send more traffic at a higher conversion rate.
We have huge updates coming to Versoly, after that we will go hard and reach out to a lot of affiliates and get them to list our product on their sites.
If you have an audience of founders and/or marketers please sign up to the affiliate program and if you need any help please email.
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Look good to put in my collection of affiliate programs, AffTable.com!
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Thanks :)
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How can your aff program attract affiliates from other site builders' program?
When my site visitors find that the big players has a stronger branding & resources, it's definitely easier to sell. How can my site help you to stand out?
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- Monthly recurring commission
- Product is just better
What else can i do? :)
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I am writing a post to share some tips after my research. It will be probably finished by tomorrow.
Also, I would like to register your program. Please approve me after I fill in my info
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Great!
Should be automatic!
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Here is my post: Marketing an affiliate program: 12 tips to recruit your affiliates
let me know if it can give you some ideas!
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Cool to watch your product growth. Cloud please share what tech stack + services have you used at Versoly?
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Doesn't look like you have updated your Versoly MRR in awhile :)
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Thanks for sharing, We at Zetamatic.com are also looking for affiliates to grow our business. I'll check it out and if you other similar platforms, please share. Thanks
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Hey Volkan! Congratulations on your affiliate sales. I owe nearly all of my businesses success to affiliate marketing. My product is for logo designers and I specifically court influencers in the design space. Here are the rules I live by:
- Give your affiliates very generous commissions to that they are highly motivated. 20–50%
- Make personal contact with your best affiliates and figure out how you can bring value to their audience. This can include live chats, podcast appearances, blog posts, etc.
- It's really hard to get conversions from Instagram
- Give your product away for free to the bigger affiliates.
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Good stuff.
Need to work on 2/4.
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This is great. I'll be getting into the hosting game and will be looking for affiliates, so this is very timely. Please continue to share your findings, would love to read them.
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Will do!
I loved reading this stuff, I also try to share when stuff doesn't work. Something that is lacking.
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@volkandkaya congrats on the success!
I've been in the affiliate marketing space the last 8 years and have some tips:
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What will really entice new affiliates is telling them what kind of EPC, eCPM they can expect from running your banners/ads on their sites
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Identify the channels where your affiliates will be running traffic and design landing pages/campaigns to match.
Real simple example: If an affiliate is promoting on mobile, make sure your landing page is mobile-optimized, top of the fold
- Run split-tests on the traffic your affiliates are sending (I like VVWO.com), this will increase the amount of money you both make
Drop me a line if I can be of more help: Andrew@Joincapture.com
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Thanks for sharing @volkandkaya. Can you share your views on Life Time Deals? Is it worth give it a shot? Would there be any downside with it?
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Have you done marketing for the affiliate program or uploaded it some affiliate marketing program directories?
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No any good directories you recommend?
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Smart move with Landingfolio 👏 Are you planning to collaborate with other LP inspiration pages too?
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Instantly reached out to a few players but didn't work out as well as I hoped.
Affiliate programs are a weird one, if they have built trust with their audience they need to trust your product.
So I will grind for a few more months, do some launches on PH and hope that builds more trust.
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Happy to help out! 🙏🏻
5% click to signup conversion rate atm, no bad at all!!!
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Wow.
Usually takes a few weeks to convert to paid customers.
So will be interesting to see visitor to paid :)
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This is awesome news. I imagine having an affiliate program means you end up on more "top site builders" type articles which eventually also help with SEO. Great work 🙌🏼
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100% just got to go put the work in to get on them lists.
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Congratulations! Nice work @volkandkaya!
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Thanks! Been wanting to do it for a while.
But I have seen many IHs do it and get 0 results. So I waited till we had customers asking for it.
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Great work. Will check out your program as might have an idea of how to include in one of my newsletters.
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Sounds good. If you need any help let me know!
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Congrats. So where did the first affiliates come from? Were they your customers who asked for an affiliate program, or did Rewardful use its network to build affiliates for you?
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From our customer base.
After posting on IHs a few weeks ago we got random people signing up which was nice.
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Finally launched our analytics feature on PH, this was so much work and the scope creep was crazy. As many of you’re developers you understand.
We wanted a simple MVP but ended up building a monster. I’m proud of it though as it will enable us to launch AB testing a lot faster in the future.
Versoly customers can now set up a landing page, collect emails and analytics in under 30 minutes. As they grow they can add pages and blog posts.
As usually I will share all the results with you.
https://www.producthunt.com/posts/analytics-by-versoly
P.S. If you need PH help let me know :)
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I appreciate you sharing your case study with us. You shared some extremely impressive techniques, and I am excited to apply them to https://prosecurityguardcalifornia.com/ , Following this step-by-step guide will hopefully help us to develop our startup as quickly as possible. In the case study, you discussed the same thing. I appreciate your help.
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Congrats on the launch, Volkan!
Curious if you have any thoughts on Fathom or if you guys are maybe using it under the hood?
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Great product, we aren't.
We was inspired a lot by them simple tools like https://usefathom.com/ and https://simpleanalytics.com/
After using GA i hated looking at our analytics.
But analytics are so important to a company.
We code really fast, something we have started to notice.
We have at the moment 5 SaaS apps built into Versoly.
Page builder, hosting, forms, blogging CMS and analytics. We plan on adding a few more :)
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Looks great!
(PH newbie here) I've noticed you've launched quite a few things on PH by Versoly. Is there a limit to how many times something can be launched there? I'll be launching my work there in the coming 1-2 weeks!
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Yes there is a limit, 6-12 months.
We launch huge features which are SaaS apps by themselves :) so we get around it
You can also launch side projects like https://saaspages.xyz/ to get around it.
Good luck with the launch, we didn't do as well as we hoped ebooks and remote tools are very popular at the moment.
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🚀 Analytics is essential, glad you worked on that and delivered. Following the evolution, good luck Volkan!
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Thanks! Was a lot of work, customers are already using it happily :)
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Congrats! Looks like it’s crushing it on the front page, just threw you an upvote!
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Thanks!
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Congratulations 🎉🎉 on the launch
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Thank you!
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Congratulations on the launch!
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Thanks :)
PH launches are always fun!
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We have wanted to start an affiliate program for ages, but after reading Indie Hackers, FB groups and blog posts we knew they didn't just magically work. You have to invest time and have affiliates ready to go.
We have had a few customers ask for it and our word of mouth is already strong, so we wanted to incentivise and reward our customers for sharing it.
If you have an audience of SaaS companies please sign up https://versoly.com/affiliate :)
We will be reporting the results of our affiliate program next month.
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Why not consider a referral program? If you are only serving your existing users, you can let users setup referral links after login.
When there is a successful referral, you can reward the user with credits in account. It's how digital ocean's program works.
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A few of them have a good size audience. And affiliates I believe aligns them better.
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Awesome! I have a lot of experience with affiliate programs of various sizes... I will say they are NOT intrinsically a ton of work if you are using it to reward people who already want to share your product. That comes when you start seeing affiliate partnerships as a significant paid acquisition channel, then yes you have to put in the time or dedicate someone to recruit and manage relationships. Look forward to see your results
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I have been wanting to do that as well because our users also ask. I know it is a lot of effort and want to wait till we really figure out our product/market fit and positioning before doing that, otherwise it is a wasted effort. Good to see you launch!
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Thanks. Like everything else...you have to make the consistent effort I think.
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Nice - looking forward to hearing how this works / interested in using it for hallway
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Will keep you updated :)
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Goodluck! What's your experience of Rewardful been so far? I saw you spoke about them on a Facebook group.
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Good, the founder is a fellow Bootstrapper and responded to me at 11:30pm.
Of course I don't expect that but that was nice :)
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Yes - they take time, and good relationships. its not easy, but we learned that theyre worth it. they account for a huge percentage of our sales.
Get customers to share and you're already on your way -- looking forwrad to seeing the results
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Interesting, curious to see how this will effect sales!
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You and me both.
I like reporting results of tests I do like Product Hunt and betalist. This will be no different :)
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Hi Volkan,
Exciting news!
Looking forward to seeing the results.
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Likewise, we have already had customers refer our product with no incentives and get us paid customers. So hope this helps.
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I'm part of a Telegram group for https://getmakerlog.com/ and post regular updates about Versoly there and Binu Mathew from https://oyestartups.com/ noticed and asked me for an interview about Versoly and SaaS Pages as we recently done well on Product Hunt.
I'm excited to see if it moves the needle at all for our SaaS as the site is targeted at early stage founders. I will report the results in a few weeks as I have done for other launches such as Betalist and Product Hunt.
https://oyestartups.com/interviews/how-started-a-saas-page-builder if you want to give it a read, be gentle it is my first interview.
Recently we added a blogging CMS to Versoly and did very well on https://www.producthunt.com/posts/blog-by-versoly/
We decided before to change the pricing plans which included increases price increases as the value of the product had also increased massively since launch.
We got a few customers on the higher plan which was great.
In SaaS the holy grail is net negative revenue churn which is when your customers revenue upgrades our more than the customer revenue churn.
This means you grow without doing any marketing. All you have to do is delight your current customers and your MRR will grow.
So one of our older customers upgraded to one of the new plans, which was amazing and a trend we hope will continue.
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Thanks!
PH launch successes are mainly due to communities like indie hackers who upvote and comment :)
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Congrats, Volkan! I'm checking your product right now and will definitely be using it for future projects.
Just want to say positioning is spot on! Well done!
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Congrats, Volkan!!!
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Thanks
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Nice, congrats Volkan!
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Thanks :)
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Very cool!
A thing that I want to note here is that on your website, you have a small video tutorial/introduction video that basically shows the potential customers how your service works. This is a nice idea, but you sound sad and bored in the video. I would recommend being enthusiastic and in a positive mood when making these videos because that helps selling your website builder a lot.
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That is just me :)
Should outsource the audio most likely.
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Great job, Volkan! Way to go!
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Thanks Alexander!
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Well done. Looks really promising :)
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Thanks, if you get a chance to use it please do give some feedback :)
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Congrats on the milestone. Here's to many more upgrades!
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Hopefully :)
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