
Wingman Tracker
Trade tracking and analysis for active options traders.
Founders Ben and Piyush sold Wingman in 2021 to focus on other projects — it's now part of the SureSwift Capital portfolio. You can read more about their exit story in our interview with Ben here: https://www.sureswiftcapital.com/interview-with-wingman-founder-ben-latz/

Not much more to report here - just time and patience. Continuing to provide good customer support and letting the word spread. Operating as a side business for about 30 minutes a day.
We're almost 3 years in since launch, so it hasn't been the fastest growth but nonetheless here we are! Organic growth at 10% a month does start to add up in this MRR territory.

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Extended free trial to 30 days instead of 14 days, which seems to be a much better fit for the product. Just like before, it's only been word of mouth in combination with good conversion rates, manageable churn, and very responsive customer support.
Started collecting some more data on feature usage and such, so the next stage of effort will be a combination of improvements via analysis-based decisions and marketing with partnerships and advertising campaigns.
Seems to make sense to consider each $1k kind of a milestone up to $5k, but the next one I have my eyes set on is $10k, so I won't report an MRR milestone until then.
The product is definitely solid enough to increase the flow of people in without me being a bottleneck. So it's been an interesting transition to wrestle with to start focusing more on the business side instead of only refining/tinkering with product (which doesn't impact revenue directly).

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As the inflow of word of mouth from some online options trading communities continues, MRR keeps climbing (at about 15% MoM). Half of the trials convert to paid subscriptions.
I've now been adding in some automation software to make things easier, such as Baremetrics (recover, cancellation insights, etc), upgraded Zapier to add on a trial expiration notice email, Honeybadger for error tracking/monitoring, and created a Slack group for subscribers for both social and customer support use.
And for the first time, I started working with a freelance developer to help improve the codebase and integrate a new solution that would improve the product - reinvesting a lot of the revenue at this point.
Up next is paying more attention to marketing, landing page, customer flow/journey, and distribution partners, etc.

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Awesome! So you started from scratch yourself? What was the biggest challenge? Where did you get your first client? =)
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Thanks, yeah started from scratch, didn't even know web development. Long story short, my friend (co-founder) helped me get started with Ruby on Rails and converting my logic/spreadsheet to a web app. That was end of 2017 - May 2018, and I continued learning RoR and building it.
Launched an early access list in April 2018 and got around 250 people from my Twitter account that I had built up over around 2 years to about 1,300 followers. Launched June 1, 2018, charging from Day 1 even though it was still very MVPish (because it solved the core problem and was the only software in existence to do so).
And ever since it's just been an insane amount of development/improvements, customer support everyday, and word of mouth. I rebuilt the app in June 2019 for a huge jump in usability and codebase quality. The biggest challenge was honestly just staying excited and motivated to work on it, because you put in so much work for basically no financial reward for a couple years and then if you've hit on the right problem/market maybe it starts to work out a little bit.
Fortunately I've gotten a lot of out of it other than money, so it's been a great positive experience regardless of what happened(s) with it. If I knew how hard SaaS was I wouldn't have done it, but I'm still very glad I did (lots of domino effect with general life/career path because of it).
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Great story. I especially like the bit about the domino effect on your general life / career. This is one of those benefits of indie hacking that often gets overlooked. Even if your first startups fail, the experience you get is invaluable.
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Thanks! Funny how it seems like the efforts someone can look back and say "it wasn't worth it in this one aspect" is the effort that made a lot more possible surrounding it - probably wouldn't have done it in the first place if you knew ahead of time.
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Congrats on your success, that is a tremendous feat! Your site looks great too, it feels inspired by https://panic.com/
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Thanks! Hadn't seen that site before
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We started getting picked up more in option trading communities online because our customers were sharing the link in forums and such. A major help was when a community leader latched onto our product and started sharing it subtly in her content (had to be careful not to cause too much traffic flow, since customer support is still a bottleneck).
And same ol' (no paid traffic, no referral partners, no content). Our focus/efforts are still on other full-time commitments (job or another startup), so effort outside of customer support and product maintenance is minimal.

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Wingman up until this point was $25/mo or $250/year, which was really an introductory price, but this was a no-brainer for customers who experience the problem it solves, and it was too low to be sustainable for us to keep working on it given the limited traffic flow.
So, we raised prices to $49/mo and $490/year for new customers, grandfathering in everyone who was already subscribed. This was a very positive change and we receive very little pushback on this price. It also now is a pricepoint that could be viable for referral partners to share revenue.

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Just more word of mouth and reduced churn, likely because of our big v2 improvement, which also enabled easier feature development and maintenance.
Over a year in, and still only making $2k/mo for the 1,000+ hours put in so far was underwhelming, but after being much more informed about the SaaS process and others' experiences, it seemed par for the course.
Just hanging in there, keeping things smooth with great customer support, hoping word of mouth keeps doing its thing.
By this time we've still done no paid marketing/advertising, no content marketing, nothing - which is not a recommendation or proud achievement, instead a point to highlight to give some context.

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We essentially rebuilt the application to accomplish the following:
- Rails 4 --> Rails 5 (Rough!)
- Vue.js frontend, pushed calculations to Vue, and refactored Rails controllers/dataflow to drastically improve performance and user experience.
- Bootstrap --> TailwindCSS for better custom design and maintainability. This was so tedious, as it was the first time using Tailwind, but so worth it!
- Yearly Plan and Stripe management panel in Settings to improve cash flow, reduce churn, and reduce customer support touch for billing (reactivations and cancellations mainly).
This really matured the product, as the first version was pretty clunky being full Rails with page refreshes, etc., so it noticeably kicked up word of mouth.

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This was driven just by word of mouth and me posting on Twitter. No launch on ProductHunt, Reddit, or the like, given the extremely niche nature of it. No paid traffic either. Just making customers happy with feature improvements and acting on suggestions that we thought were a good addition.
While I don't remember exactly what this felt like, since I'm adding this milestone retroactively in Jan 2020, it was likely a time when we started appreciating how long and slow the SaaS ramp can take. It was discouraging, but as long as we kept things humming along, we assumed word of mouth would continue, and if it didn't, that just meant we weren't doing a good enough job on the product.

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Over a year or two, Ben built up a small Twitter following in the retail options trading community and released free spreadsheets to gauge interest in a trade tracking solution, since everyone seemed to struggle with the tedious process of tracking and analyzing their trading.
We (Ben and Piyush) dabbled in the initial creation of Wingman in the latter half of 2017, but started going full nights and weekends in January 2018 when we moved to Chicago after graduating college for our first jobs. We did 100% of the work in-house, which is still true through January 2020 when writing this milestone.
We then launched a landing page to explain the concept and accept early access waitlist sign ups in April 2018. It built up to around 250 people (just from Ben's Twitter) before we opened real signups on June 1, 2018.
We charged from Day 1, offering a 14-day trial and then $25/mo single tier, credit card required.

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As an option trader myself, it was way too tedious to upkeep a manual spreadsheet that would organize and analyze my trading. Wingman brings automation to the process and unlocks analysis that is hard to do on your own.




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