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May 16, 2020 556% revenue increase in 15 days of hustle

I launched Young Makers Newsletter 3 weeks ago to help young makers like myself. I never thought I could do it.

Here's my transparency story, the results achieved, how I started and what worked for me.

Read till the end!

If I could do it starting from nothing, so could you!

My First Online Revenue

• 8 paid subscribers
• $328 in revenue
• 150 subs

Young Makers Revenue

Here's how I got my traffic

Indie Hackers – 260 views, 7 subs, 1 paid
Twitter – 174 views, 8 subs, 2 paid
Direct – 170 views, 14 subs, 1 paid
Hacker News – 9 views, 1 sub
Telegram Groups – 8 views, 2 subs, 1 paid
Facebook – 7 views
Reddit – 6 views, 1 sub

Here's how I made $ from "experiments"

• $150 from mastermind group
• $15 from early supporters
• $10 from subscriptions
• $18 from buymeacoffee

If you don't experiment, you'll never know what works. I simply followed advice from @AndrewKamphey and my newsletter's actionable advice.

When I did my first few interviews, I realized these about successful entrepreneurs. They:

• had huge bias for action
• were creative about how they made money
• kept moving, never stopped
• iterated if needed
• focused on ramen profitability
• had community support

I wasted 4 years in college...

• learning things that didn't align with my future path
• building products that made a loss
• having no friends who shared indie hacking dreams
• struggling to subsist while doing what i love while helping others

However, it all changed when I did these…

STOP
• lurking in online communities
• over thinking
• over planning and
• over strategizing

Strategy is useful when you have revenue. If you don't have it, hustle for that first.

START
• putting myself out there on twitter, WIP.chat, Indie Hackers, Newsletter Geeks (an invite-only telegram community for newsletter operators)
• being consistent
• ask for mentoring
• DOING things fast
• execute, execute, execute
• experiment and improve

success = consistency * quality

if consistency was less than 1.0, no matter how much quality I put in, it would be useless. I'd still get less than 100%.

therefore I must be both consistent and put in quality work. Quality work is 10,000 iterations.

What are you waiting for?

Start building! Stop lurking.

Put yourself out there, build in public. Setup a product page on Indie Hackers and blog there. Tweet about your progress.

Use that consistency to ask for help; ask for guidance and mentoring

I'm not alone

These are the communities that brought me up:

Indie Hackers
Wip.chat
Newsletter Geeks by @anthilemoon
Reading.supply
SMUMods with my co-founder, Zachery

And many other people such as @AndrewKamphey who mentored me. As well as those who gave me guidance and encouragement along the way. My twitter followers were a very encouraging bunch as well! Last but not least, my girlfriend 🙏.

I have a rather comprehensive list of whom I'm thankful for here if you care to follow them.

Thoughts?

• Happy to help makers starting out if you need a bit of push. Just ask away below in comments or DM me on twitter.

• Is there any actionable advice you got from this milestone? Share them below so I can give you a reminder to execute it! We could also bounce ideas!

30 Comments

  1. 9

    Brilliant ... could not agree more, also had a problem for a long time of just lurking online and finally last week started putting myself out there. I must say it get easier the more you do it.

    1. 1

      110% agree with this. Once you get into the habit of doing and executing fast, results will come. It's just a matter of time.

      And when they do, it really boosts your energy levels. Because now you're driven to keep going. It's in our psychology.

      Really glad you gave yourself that push! Keep going Patryk! If you need to bounce ideas, you know where to find me!

      1. 2

        Thanks @gczh. Will do.

  2. 4

    I would agree wholeheartedly. And add ...

    • don't fall for the 'shiny new object' fallacy and get into whatever fad is big that month.

    • if you build it they won't come. Build a Community first. Learn the principles of sales/marketing.

    • most creatives/coders dont have a thick enough skin for consistent sales calls. Either outsource that work or partner with a sales guru.

    Also, I dont see the problem with planning and strategizing. A bit more p&s would turn alot of zero revenue apps into winners or they'd be put to the sword sooner before they turned into bloatware that noone used.

    Just my two cents ...

    1. 2

      I used to subscribe to the idea of running startups and succeeding crazily. I thought I would be happy and it would pay for a house. I was so wrong.

      You risk everything and years of effort on an idea that might not succeed on the scale VCs want. You burn out and become penniless – happened to some friends I know.

      Having seen how bootstrappers silently slugging it out and succeeding, it left me thinking. Could it be a pathway I'd be happier with? I'd be able to make an honest living without worrying about saving up for a house to build a family. Neither would I be overworked from hustling for returns I might never see.

      When I got on Twitter and Indie Hackers, I saw that this was all possible. But the first steps they all took were always to take action, execute fast and get to ramen profitability first. It was never about "lets spend a few days to strategize". A few days could mean an advantage for a competitor to copy you and steal your customers. Every dollar counts.

      That mindset made me appreciate every experiment I ran. Even if it's a buy me a coffee $3, it's still money to me. I can use it to pay for the bills.

      1. 5

        The most successful entrepreneurs always start with marketing. The best marketer wins everytime in business. Marketing is the master skill of business.

        Unless you can get into the mind of your target market. All your marketing efforts will have been wasted. Interviews. In depth research. Careful study of target market.

        At the very least you should answer these questions before writing a single line of code ...

        Know your target market first..

        What is their gender, geography and age ?

        What keeps them awake at night ?

        What are they afraid of ?

        What are they angry about ? Who are they angry at ?

        What are their top daily frustrations ?

        What trends are occuring/will occur in their businesses ?

        What is the one thing they crave above all else ?

        What do they secretly desire most ?

        What language/ jargon do they use ?

        What magazines/ websites do they read ?

        What is their dominant emotion ?

        Imo know these answers before you spend a single minute writing code.

        I learnt this the hard way btw. And finally remember you are not your consumer.

  3. 3

    Start building! Stop lurking. You rock Gabriel!

    1. 2

      Cheers Damon! You're already building something incredible! Next step: experiment and iterate!!

  4. 3

    Great start, thanks for being transparent and sharing your journey with us.

  5. 2

    This is great advice & a winning attitude!

    What do you mean exactly by mastermind group? What kind of group is it and how did you find one? Or maybe I'm missing something here?

    1. 1

      Thank you! I hosted a 2 weeks mastermind group for premium subscribers. It describes as something like that:

      • Launch and grow your newsletter to 50+ subscribers in 2 weeks
      • Get video feedback of your newsletter setup
      • Growth and monetization tips

      There’s only 4 slots in a mastermind group, going at $50 per slot.

      If participants try their best and do everything we go through in the mastermind group but don’t get results as above, I’ll refund them.

      1. 1

        Awesome, thanks for explaining!

  6. 2

    Congrats Gabriel...Good start...I probably have some friends that probably need Young Makers

    1. 3

      Thanks Akshay! Give them that push they need!

      One of my newsletter's OKRs – I want to help 1000 makers to get to their first profits by the end of 2020. If i don't, I'll be sulking during Christmas. 😢

      1. 2

        You'll get there. That's a good goal.

  7. 2

    Excellent post. Because I kept jumping around from one idea to another i don’t even know how to relate to my little 300 followers on twitter. I went from app developer, to data specialist for a science research publishing company (Nature), to now i’m a music platform developer. People want to categorize other people. I’m definitely going to follow you on twitter to see if I can follow your lead on building public.

    1. 2

      I can relate to that! I used to work on many side projects without launching many of them. My friends lectured me and told me I sucked at focusing. They were right.

      Till today, I'm still bad at focusing. But I keep myself to 3 things at a time as best as I can. It's just 1) My full-time job, 2) Young Makers and 3) My Family, Girlfriend and Friends.

      I would suggest sticking to 1 thing and become really good at it. At least enough to pay for a living. Use that income to explore complementary interests. At least, that's where I'm heading! You're welcome to join me on my journey 😊

  8. 2

    Very cool man! Congrats! Just curious - how do you work around Reddit? Since Redditors are most often very hostile against promotion and ads etc.

    1. 3

      I actually gave up on Reddit. At least for now. I don't think it's worth the hassle having to deal with shit posters. I think one of them even went all the way to my Twitter account. And he blocked me.

      1. 2

        Oh Jesus, that's another level

  9. 2

    Congrats Gabriel! Thanks for the lessons. And inspiration 🙌

    1. 1

      Thanks Dru! Learning a ton from your journey with Trends.vc as well!

  10. 2

    Really interesting read and I am impressed by the progress 😊

    1. 1

      Thanks Joyancefa! How's your maker journey coming along? Don't forget to take action on the advice! Try them and see what works for you 🙈

      1. 1

        Yes! Really liked it especially the reminders to focus on making a profit which I really need :) Plus discovered the website landingfolio (https://www.landingfolio.com/?ref=youngmakers)

        1. 1

          Glad you liked! Ping me anytime on Twitter DMs or my telegram community if you need anything(:

          1. 1

            Thanks a lot that is very nice ❤️. Won't hesitate.

  11. 1

    Love it Gabriel, keep at it. <3

  12. 1

    Congratulations. The Hustle Podcast discussed the opportunities with churches. It was mostly focused on digital apps to collect donations, but there might be some insights there for you as well?

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    This comment was deleted 6 years ago

    1. 1

      This was me! Try these out:

      1. Join online communities like Indie Hackers, WIP.chat, Makerlog

      2. Build in public on twitter.

      3. Reach out to me on Twitter DMs if you need help – happy to advise where I can. I'm no expert but if it can help unblock you, lets try it.

May 1, 2020 My First $50 Online (How I Did It)

It is so surreal! I can't believe I have actually made money from making an online thing – a newsletter!

I have been a long-time lurker of Indie Hackers, Newsletter Geeks (NG) and WIP.chat. NG is a telegram group by @anthilemoon for newsletter creators)

Less than 3 weeks ago, I ended my final exams for college. I decided I wasn't going to lurk anymore and started working on YoungMakers. But I got stuck. I was lamenting about needing mentors on Twitter and @AndrewKamphey reached out. He was so kind to walk me through how to setup a newsletter from scratch.

After hundreds of edits, we were both finally happy with the output and I hit schedule for 2PM. I sweated so much and felt a strange chill as I hit the send button.

At 2pm, it fired out and I started to post my first issue on various Telegram Groups. I messaged Newsletter Geeks, WIP, Isolated Founders and Twitter. @MarcelHagedoorn on WIP saw my launch and wanted to support me so he subscribed for $50/year and it threw me off my chair.

This was my first ever dollar earned from making an online info product like a newsletter. I ran and told my mum about this and she, being less tech savvy, was so surprised. I explained how this worked and she went "ah, that's so cool" and gave me huge smiles. This made my week.

The maker community completes me in many ways where college didn't.

(PS: @rosiesherry you'll love this quote!)

The huge epiphany moment was when I took advice from the same makers I interviewed on monetizing. I started adding options for people to pay me for my content. And it worked!

I can't wait to help more Young Makers with this newsletter. I believe in the mission and its purpose.

Check out my first ever newsletter issue at

https://youngmakers.substack.com/p/edition-1-making-your-first-profit

PS: I build in public daily on my Twitter as well: https://twitter.com/gabrielchuan/status/1246516101673938944?s=20

34 Comments

  1. 11

    Happy and humbled to be the first to (literally) support you. I know what it's like to receive the first paid subscription. Happy to pay that feeling forward.

    1. 2

      Thanks Marcel! Will remember this purchase for life! It's a super super surreal, amazing feeling that I'm literally in disbelief, that the internet could make this happen! 😳

      Will work harder and craft a better newsletter that's useful to other Young Makers! That $50 will be put to good use to support more Young Makers moving forward 🙏

  2. 3

    Amazing stuff. It's a great lesson in there - 'Don't be afraid to ask, when you're stick'
    Go to great from here

    1. 1

      Thank you so much! That's a great quote and it's something I think I wrote about in my Daily Blog – https://reading.supply/a/gabriels-daily-blog

      Likewise, don't be afraid to ask too if you're stuck with anything!

  3. 3

    Finding a mentor, completing your project, marketing it everywhere. Great job at an early age! Kudos!

    1. 1

      Thanks Carl! It's one hell of another story about how I found Andrew to mentor me. Hint: it all started with twitter!

      Not too young myself actually but always young at heart, as are the rest of us! Kudos to you too! 🙏

  4. 3

    Nice quote and congrats of the sale!

    1. 1

      Thanks Rosie! Thanks for helping to steward the Indie Hackers community. You're doing an awesome job together with @channingallen and @csallen!

  5. 2

    3 weeks ago, we were the same.. today, you're my senior! A win for you is a win to the community fam!

    1. 1

      Thanks Lwazi! You'll catch up in no time!

      That's right! I want to always stay grounded as a maker. I help other makers along the way as long as its within my capacity. Gotta keep the community strong and alive 🙏

      That being said – if there's any way I can help you as a fellow maker, do let me know.

  6. 2

    Feels good, don't it? Congrats!

    1. 1

      Super! 🙈 Thanks Blake!!

  7. 2

    Good job! Beware: it’s addictive 😂

    1. 1

      Thanks Andre! You're right, it's actually quite addictive! There's no stopping anymore. The only way is up! And to bring more makers around me up as I go along! 🙈

  8. 2

    Awesome stuff Gabriel, keep up the hard work!

    1. 2

      Thank you so much Luke! 🙏 Will keep working hard as always!

  9. 2

    Congrats! 🥳

    1. 1

      Thanks Dawid! 🙏

  10. 2

    Congrats Gabriel!! 🥳🤑

    1. 1

      Thanks Anthony! 🙏🙏

  11. 2

    Congrats! :)

    1. 1

      Thanks Victor! 🙏 Let me know if I can be of any help through Young Makers!

  12. 2

    This is great! So happy for you. :)

    1. 1

      Thanks Jatin!! 🙏 Are you a young maker? Let me know if I can be of any help through Young Makers!

  13. 2

    remember this moment

    1. 1

      Forever! Thanks for being one of my inspirations, Harry! 🙏

      1. 1

        haha! cheers gabriel ;0

  14. 2

    Congratulations. Look forward to following the journey (and reading the newsletter 😁)

    1. 1

      Thanks Paul! 🙏

  15. 1

    Congrats, mate! Keep up with the good work.

  16. 1

    Congrats Gabriel, I could feel the excitement in your post. i'm genuinely happy for you.

  17. 1

    Congrats Gabriel

  18. 1

    Congrats!!

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    This comment was deleted 3 years ago

    1. 1

      It's is super exciting indeed! Thank you! 🙏

April 29, 2020 Launched Newsletter with 19 subscribers

It's not a huge number but this is a meaningful milestone for an aspiring Young Maker like me.

I'm in my final semester of college and here's me putting a foot out into the world trying something totally different from my peers; they would otherwise advise me to go into corporate jobs otherwise. But no, I'm taking a huge risk to build my own lifestyle by indie hacking.

Over the past few days, I've been working with @AndrewKamphey who was super kind to walk me through a 101 of how to setup a newsletter, work out a format and line up interviews for me. He's a great guy and knows his stuff about newsletters – give him a follow on Twitter and IndieHackers if you haven't!

After the interviews were lined up, I announced my launch and the first issue will be sent out on this Friday. I went to bed and checked the subscriber count the next morning and got 19 subscribers.

Are you Young Maker interested in how successful maker made their First Profits?

If you are, subscribe to my newsletter at YoungMakers.substack.com

I interview 2 kinds of makers:

  1. Successful makers on how they got their first profit

  2. Aspiring makers who are looking for advice from successful makers (I help them to reach out to successful makers if they’re in the same niche or I feel they could help) to get to their first profits

Interested in getting advice from Successful Makers?

Subscribe and DM me on twitter at twitter.com/gabrielchuan and I will follow up with you. I'll send your pitch to successful makers and try to help you get advice from them.

Thank you!

My goal is to help Young Makers like myself succeed with their First Profits and beyond. If you like what I'm doing, please support me by:

  1. Following me on my Twitter at twitter.com/gabrielchuan
  2. Subscribing to my newsletter at youngmakers.substack.com
  3. Leave me a comment or DM me! I love to hear from anyone and making friends over the Internet.

9 Comments

  1. 1

    Congrats for taking the risk ☺️

    1. 1

      Thanks Joyancefa! Saw you just subscribed, this means a lot to me! Let me know if I can be of help in anyway to your maker journey as well! Feel free to reach out anytime – my contact details are on the newsletter about page! 😊

      1. 2

        Hello @gczh thanks to you instead. Looking forward to reading the stories ☺️.

  2. 1

    Congrats on getting started and with some subscribers 👍

    1. 1

      Thanks Paul! Been benefiting a lot from you in Newsletter Geeks! It's about time I paid it back to the community 😊 Can't wait to catch up with you and the other more successful newsletter operators!

  3. 1

    Good stuff on the way for young makers and makers young at heart

    1. 1

      Thanks Andrew! This is all possible because of your nudge and help! 😊🙌

  4. 1

    Massive congrats on launching your newsletter! And you're in good hands with @AndrewKamphey :)

    1. 1

      Thanks Anne and thank you so much for the Newsletter Geeks community. It has been one of the best communities online that I've ever been in. It's such a great community you've stewarded that just keeps giving. Great advice in it and most of all, great people like @AndrewKamphey in it that makes the group a very conducive community.

March 1, 2020 Came up with the Idea

I have been a long time lurker of Indie Hacking communities, such as Indie Hackers, WIP, Twitter, etc, and consumed a lot of content and advice. I've probably tried to apply a few of these advice to my first public project – SMUMods.com

Not all advice is equal though.

• We don't fully grasp the context or the context is missing entirely
• The advice is misleading
• The advice is not applicable to you (due to different circumstances)

And there is simply too much advice out there. Many of them are even hidden within interviews and stories but they are not centralized in a single location where it's easy to find them.

Being an aspiring Indie Hacker myself, I thought I'd appreciate it if someone could compile all these advice and turned them into something actionable for me.

That's when I came up with the idea for Young Makers.

h/t to Pete from NOCSDegree and Marc from WIP.chat for the nudge on the naming.

PS: Many will probably think Young Makers might be competing with Failory, Starter Story and Indie Hackers but no, here's a visualization to see that we're simply aggregating and curating content. Also, it'd be nice to work with Courtland someday to improve the state of Indie Hacking for many aspiring makers out there.

Young Makers Visualization

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I’m working on a website called Young Makers, which as its name implies is for young makers. I aggregate content from sites like IndieHackers, failory, starterstory which have maker stories (interviews mostly) and many