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How to improve a $20 "perfect" logo ;)

This is an answer to @colinkeeley's post. Where he explains how he created his own logo from dribble inspiration, some sketches and a $20 designer from Fiverr.

First thing first, here is the logo he uses. It’s for Avocado, a platform for audio courses.

Avocado's logo

The Good:

  • This is a nice design, it's impactful and memorizable
  • That's totally consistent with Avocado's name and activity. Turning an avocado into a speaker is really smart!

How you can improve it:

The Meaning

When you start a logo you should ask yourself a few questions: What color will convey the company's values? Should I go with a round or more angular shape? What font will go with my message etc…
These questions can be pretty hard to answer but they are the keys to create a logo that reflects your company's values. And that's exactly what a good designer starts with.
It's pretty easy with a fruit name, it can be way more difficult for something abstract.
Keep in mind that a good logo needs to be memorizable, remarkable, and should convey your values!

The Font

A logo is not just a symbol. It's the combination of a symbol and a font (for most of them). Choosing the right font can also be tricky. Here, Avocado uses Futura: it’s sober, nice, and classic. But it will not help the brand to be remarkable here.
It's would be a good idea to choose a font with more roundness to resonate with the symbol, and maybe a more eccentric one to give more weight to the branding.

The Branding

The green is really nice, but on the website there is almost no usage of it. Even the logo is black with a transparent background in the header.
The branding of Avocado will be way more impactful if you see more green. The current design doesn't really stand-out. And that's too bad!
Again, the mission here is to be remarkable and memorizable!

Conclusion

I know that the logo market is really disturbing. You can get a logo for any price you want. From $1 to several thousands of dollars! It's probably the only product that has a price gap that huuuuuge.

You can sketch something on your own, and I like the avocado idea. But with a professional designer, you can go way further and create a company branding that will help you grow! You don’t need $100,000 dollars either. For a few hundred, you can get a very decent custom design.

And if you don't have that cash, have a look at Logology. We launched this logo generator 2 months ago to help indie hackers who are just getting started. It gives you meaningful symbols, fonts and colors proposals for your brand. Everything is hand-made and was prepared beforehand by our designer.

Cheers!

posted to Icon for group Design and UX
Design and UX
on June 30, 2020
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    Just checked out Logology. It has a really refreshing design.
    I didn't expect any better than other logo making sites I have seen and rejected. But you had me when you asked: "if LightCat.io was a superhero, what would it be".

    In simple fun way, you are trying to quantify the 'personality' of the product, and then design a logo. Haven't completed the journey so I do not know what I will get. But so far, a great product.

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      Edit: Many of these classifications can be confusing. People might pick a character or a famous personality because they like them.

      Suggestion: Also add a one word summary of the value being represented "Reliable", "Innovative", "Serious" etc.

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        Hum not sure that's what we want…
        But, you're right some questions are hard or can be confusing. We're working on it!

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    This is great Xavier - thanks! More green and a rounded font incoming 😄

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    Hi Xavier, just went through the funnel for Logology, really liked it. Some quick feedback. Some of the logos suggested by your site placed focus on the startup name initial, but being a 2 word compound company name, made those logos not accurate/relevant, think "thefacebook.com" - The T was not as relevant for them. Some capabilities to provide more information to the system would be helpful overall. What stopped me from buying the logos was the fact that I want a specific meaning that I want to convey through the logo, basically I want the logo to resemble the shape of latin america, since it is key to our mission, and for that price I know I can get something closer. Must note that your platform got very close with one of the triangle shaped proposals and I really liked it, ill keep it in mind. Anyways great post and keep up the good work!

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    I really like the experience of Logology. How much would you charge if we walked through all those questions, built our "brand profile," and wanted something custom?

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      That's a good question we're thinking about it right now!

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    True story: product hunt logo cost $0. Does it matter? no

    When I have high revenue and employees and all that jazz, I will probably have one of the designers rethink the logo (like Slack). Whether that will be an improvement or not, don't know yet.

    In the meantime I am busting out my inkscape and keep on doodling those free icons. I am yet to try and continue to use a product simply and solely because they have a great icon. It just needs to pass the bare minimum margin. The real value comes from other things. With early product this is non-essential.

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      A logo is a way more than an icon :) It's the backbone of your branding… Of course, it's not a silver bullet but it does help.

      I'm not saying that you should spend thousands of dollars on a logo when you start a project, we created Logology precisely to give early-stage companies to have an high-quality logo on a low budget!

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        I'm approaching this as an app developer. You have to have a logo to publish the app. That is the baseline.

        I think it is useful to have a service like yours since many people are not artistic but still need that logo.

        But my point was it does not need to be perfect. Just like everything else about your product and process, you can iterate over time. Not having the absolute perfect logo (as long as you have one) should not deter from the core business -- unless the core business is making logos :D

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    Great read Xavier, for all those folks who don't have a logo yet, be sure to check out Logobly, my new logo maker:

    https://logobly.com

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      Did you really read until the very end? ;)

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        Okay, I get it now Xavier - you've created a logo maker too! LOL : )

        Cool, I appreciate the hustle - good luck.

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          AHahah yes :)
          Congrats on the v1.1!

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            Cheers : ) I really loved the on boarding experience for Logology.co - it sets it apart from other logo makers for sure.

            I may have to add a sign up at the end ... I can see how this would capture leads better for sure. At the moment Logobly has no user login.

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      Hello Primer,
      I've been a logo designer for 15 years and I agree with you on one point : if you have a good service/product, having a bad logo won't change your prime success that much. But if you have a good service/product, having a good logo can really create an emotional link between the company and its audience (and by good logo, I mean a one that not only has good and effective look but also conveys the values of the company). For example, you don't want to go to a job interview in your pj's, maybe if you are extremely valuable on the market, they will hire you anyway, but otherwise you will feel better with clothes that suit you. Again, it's not just a question of being "good-looking", it's about being relevant, authentic, seductive, etc… The more your need to get attention from your audience, the more the logo can help. You build all the marketing voice with it.
      I'm not saying you're wrong! It's just that I'm so passionated by my job as a logo designer, I love to tell stories with logos, so, to me, it makes sense to see the benefit. But, I know it's a graphic designer point of view… I won't be doing this obviously if it wouldn't make sense to me.

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          Yes, you memorize the logo you see even if you're not aware of it!
          Let's play a little game, how many of these brand can you recognize only with their logos?

          Logo map

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            Retry this with non household brand name logos.

            Guarantee it won't hold up. Primer is right, while a good logo does matter, obsessing over the details is fruitless unless you're a household brand name.

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              Again, there is truth in your point of view.
              That's why we created Logology: because we believe that for a start you need a good logo, affordable, not an expensive one which an agency will work months on. We made this because we found that usual logo makers don't provide good logos (with a meaning and a quality design).

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