
No CS Degree
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Had my best month for revenue with $3,282.36! 💸
Really glad I made all those Gumroad products in September now!
There was a good start to November with two coding bootcamps sponsoring articles on No CS Degree- this brought in a big chunk of revenue early on.
November was already going well but Black Friday was a revelation!
After doing a dumb hipster "I'm raising my prices" thing last year which didn't materialize into anything, I went with the flow this year and made $2k from the sales.
I'm really glad I made a deals thread on my blog - I was thinking of making a whole new site. I realised though that boosting my personal blog was a better option compared to a site that would be dead after a week.
I can't be bothered doing the sums but probably 60% of Black Friday revenue came from affiliate revenue from Gumroad products and another 30% from my own content. I also got about 10% from newsletter ads revenue supporting other people's deals.
The Monetize Your Newsletter course did really well which is awesome and most importantly I got a great review!
I'm going to have to revisit the Revenue Report idea of summing up how founders make money. I priced this at $5 for the sale and it sold A LOT.
I don't know if I want to be tied to another newsletter so I might just do a bundle of stories and make one big ebook.
My launches usually do well on Hacker News. But I've had trouble re-producing this for articles. Most of my blog articles get a couple of upvotes and then perish.
But i decided to try again today.
This morning I posted an analysis I did of Pieter Level's coding style and it's still on the front page.
My headline was "Pieter Levels makes $600k a year from Nomad List and Remote OK"
So some takeaways would be 1) mention a big figure and 2) mention a famous maker.
It's still just on the front page now after 6 hours which is awesome for a blog post: https://news.ycombinator.com/news
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Nice to get my newsletter for people learning to code without a CS degree over the 2k hump.
I've been able to monetize it from day 1 so I'm fine with steady growth. Some people might grow faster but they aren't making any money from their list.
My job board newsletter is growing a lot faster but that's understandable - people need jobs more than they need content.
I've recently switched to delivering all the content within the newsletter just like indiehackers does. I do provide a link to the website if people want that option but I've seen some really high open rates with this approach. Some times in excess of 50% which is pretty good for a newsletter of 2,000 people.
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June was my best month yet for No CS Degree with $2,523 in revenue! Selling more newsletter ad spots was definitely a game changer. I also published an ebook on Imposter Syndrome which helped.
Here's a summary:
My newsletter sales really ramped up this month!
I made $1,450 from getting my newsletters sponsored in June. So I'm going to do a video course this month on monetizing your newsletter. I've really been inspired by the likes of Ben Tossell and Daniel Vassallo in this regard. Both are excellent at monetising their knowledge with courses. I get asked a lot about how to get sponsors and someone told me in their DMs there isn't any info about how to price ad spots for indie makers. So there's a big gap.
I had a really good first week.
I made $1,000 in the first 5 days. So that set me to have a good month. It's obviously a psychological boost if you can start the month well.
I organised my work in 30 mins chunks in June.
This helped a lot with focus!
No phones, no twitter etc allowed during this time.
Before I had a long list of tasks to tick off.
This system where I focus on one area like sales for 30 mins works much better for me!
I had a lot more income from newsletter sales than bootcamps this month.
Selling to other makers is a lot quicker than getting approval from big companies.
B2B sales is lucrative but the more decision makers in a company, the longer it takes. I can get approval for spending from solo founders in minutes.
Imposter Syndrome book
This definitely helped increase revenue this month
I made $280 from my book on how developers without CS degrees beat imposter syndrome. So I wouldn't have had my best month if I hadn't released it.
Affiliates
I also got a nice bit of affiliate income - about $300 - from reviewing the Daniel Vassallo course on getting a Twitter audience
Affiliate income is unpredictable so I see it as a nice extra now - not something to rely upon. One of my affiliates didn't pay out anything. Even though it got the same amount of clicks as last month. Weird!
Better planning
I also made a CRM in Google Sheets for the first time.
It REALLY helps having my pitches organised like this. I can see who I've approached and compare how many people I've pitched from week to week.
More pitches
Another thing that helped this month was just asking more!
I won over about 40% of the people I asked to sponsor my newsletters.
And so if I ramp up how many people I ask I can earn more in July!
Increased prices
I was able to increases the prices for my newsletters this month.
AND I SOLD MORE!
So that definitely paid off.
You can often increase your prices instead of just selling more.
Simple tip but lots of people don't do it.
June was my 12th month of doing No CS Degree so great to be ending the year on a high!
I've made a Twitter thread summing up what I did well this month
I originally thought it was $2,333 but I got some extra affiliate income I wasn't aware of at the time I posted this tweet.
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So last Friday I released a book on Imposter Syndrome amongst developers
I had worked on it for a few weeks and it had been 99% done for a while.
I already had the content from my interview on No CS Degree so it was really a question of designing a cover that held me up. I had to ask people's permission to feature their faces which is only fair.
I've had 48 sales so far in the first week so I'm fairly happy with that. It's priced at $5 so $240 for my first ebook already is pretty good. It's nice to have something to add to newsletters if I don't have a sponsor one week.
I've also added a few chapters for free as a link magnet when people join my newsletter.
I've written a blog post about how you can publish an ebook for free
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I just bought it. I am reading your newsletter from the beginning, it gives me a good shot of motivation on my 3 years long journey of learning development :)
Wishing you all the best!
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That's great!!
I'd love to hear what you think :)
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I plan to read it by the end of this week. Will be happy to share some comments with you :)
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Please do :) (Good or bad)
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Hi Pete,
I just finished reading your ebook and I think it's really good, but I am sure it could be a lot better in v2 :)
My honest opinion is – currently, for me it's more a book with short interviews rather than a book about imposter syndrom that exhaust the topic. These short interviews would be great addition if you could dive deeper into imposter syndrom problem, do some research about it and then put some science in it.
These are personal opinions of people you've done interviews with, and although they are really appreciated, I think that many people would appreciate more insight into it, some thoughts from you, some steps how to deal with imposter syndrom etc.
In one interview there was a mention that there are 5 different types of imposter syndrom - I would dig into that.
Other than that, I think it's a important ebook that I enjoyed reading, but I am pretty sure that having done such a successful project as noCSdegree, you could improve this book by a lot in the next version.
PS: there are some small typos, that would be good to correct, and one interview (of Tapha Ngum) is repeated.
I am learning programming myself after 15 years of break, and this book confirmed that all the negative feelings that I have every now and then are completely normal. Because of that, I thank you for this ebook :)
Pete, in short – great job! Thank you for doing this :) Good luck with improving it.
Cheers!
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hey, thanks for the honest review :)
I'll check out that Tapha thing - I didn't realise there was a repeat!
That's a lot to think about so i'll digest your thoughts :)
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Always happy to help, Pete! :)
I think that you've created a good place in the Internet for yourself, and the brand that will be much more recognized in the upcoming years.
I am pretty sure that it will influence positively the quality (and abundance) of your projects quite a lot.
Good luck! :)
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As soon as I find my Kindle back, I'll purchase a copy!
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Thank you! I'll update the gumroad page with epub format - it's just pdf now.
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Hey Pete, fellow WIPer here though not active recently.
Curious to see what was your economic objective working on this? As in how many copies did you thought of selling at $5 price point to make it viable for the time you put in to put this content together?
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hmm, good question! I've made $265 now. I'd be pretty happy if it made over $1000
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Congrats Pete! 48 sales is a great result.
I was a bit surprised by the low price. You probably could have sold the book for $20 as well. Is there a particular reason you didn't ask for more?
And did you hear about the Heavy Metal Launch curve? I wasn't aware of this until recently and it really works. The idea is that you have a sequence announcing your launch. Then you offer a discount or a freebie for a limited time (e.g. launch week) and remind people a couple of times. Sales should peak at the first and last day.
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I agree with @joke: $5 is much too low. As I read your post, @petecodes, I was expecting the book to be priced around $35-40.
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I'm now at about 2,100 subscribers for my job board for developers without degrees . Obviously, it's a little bittersweet as I suspect part of the recent growth has been from people looking for jobs as a result of Covid 19.
Of course, on a more positive note, I'm glad I've created a resource for developers that have been to coding bootcamps or are self-taught and that I can help them apply for jobs. So I'm glad I can help in some way.
I had 1,000 subscribers in my first week and then it took a while to get up to 1,700 or so which was my peak pre corona. I've added about 300 people in the last month.
A lot of that has been down to another founder, Derek Sams, directing his own subscribers over to my site as he's stopping his newsletter. Thanks Derek!
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Nice work! I’ve just started a niche job board for product managers (Premotely.com). I’m exploring different ways I can automate the workflow, specifically where best to store the jobs and how to pull them in to an email newsletter template tool (HubSpot etc). I’m trying to do it 100% with no-code tools as an experiment :)
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Nice work! Besides Derek's push, what other tactics did you use to get your list going?
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Congratulations
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I really love the design of your site.
Congrats on the uptick of subscribers!
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Congrats Pete!
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Thanks!
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I had a sale for a listing on Bootcamp Index yesterday. Once I had added it to my accounts spreadsheet I saw my running total turn over into 5 figures and over $10,000!
A few years ago I never thought of being able to make money online let alone 10k! It's nice for me to see how far I've come.
My sources of revenue have been:
- Newsletter sponsorship
- Articles sponsored by coding bootcamps
- Affiliate links
- Listings on my job board
- Listings on Bootcamp Index
It's a long story so I wrote about it in more detail on my personal blog
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I just referred to your site to make my listing of affiliate programs last week! Saw your site on sheet2site and found it quite clear. I've just launched my site Afftable.com yesterday.
Can you tell me which source of revenue constitutes the largest part? I'm just starting out. Not sure if my target audience will be interested in my site. How did you gather traffics at the beginning?
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Newsletter sponsors used to be the biggest source but now it's becoming article sponsorship from bootcamps.
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That's a really useful site!
I would definitely put it out on Hacker News/ Product Hunt/ Reddit etc
Good job!
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Does it require big traffic to ask for sponsorship? How can you launch 2 weeks ago and monetize so quickly?
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I've been running No CS Degree since July last year so I've been in the space for a while now.
You need decent traffic but you don't need to be a rocketship. Just ask people to sponsor you.
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We got the chance to talk to Indie Hackers about our road so far. It’s been a long journey with a lot of ups and downs, but we’re proud of how far we’ve come. Check out the interview to learn more about how we got started and what challenges we’ve faced.
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I've made a sister site for the website where I show people the best coding bootcamps. I don't like the current offerings like Course Report and I wanted to make more of a Nomad List-style website where people can find the information easily themselves.
I really should have launched this months ago when I first had the idea but I kept procrastinating. I've written about that in more details on my blog. Still, better late than never. Oh and I put it on Product Hunt today: https://www.producthunt.com/posts/bootcamp-index
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Hey Pete - Love the idea, already commented and upvoted on PH and bookmarked the site for my own use - hope you have a really successful launch day.
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Thanks! I've been hovering around the 8th position so that's decent.
More importantly, I've made some cash!
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Congrats Pete! How are you planning on growing this?
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Thanks Shiva! Good question, haha - I think a lot will come from links in my blog articles and newsletters. I'd like to start working on youtube and maybe a podcast as well.
Any suggestions?
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Also, how did the Product Hunt launch go?
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Good! I can't seem to find the final day stats but I was featured and I think I finished 8th. It probably helped me get some new sponsorship deals for No CS Degree which is nice.
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I'm starting a bootcamp back here in India and I'll be primarily working off YouTube and Podcasts.
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nice one
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No CS Degree officially launched 6 months ago! 🎉
$5,285 in revenue 💰
128k people have visited the site 👀
54 devs without CS degrees shared their stories 📖
1,212 blog subscribers 📨
1,681 job board subscribers 📨
Hopefully I will be hitting that total revenue figure each month in the next month or two 😀
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